External Silver Screens causing water leak

Nowti Berti
Nowti Berti Forum Participant Posts: 15
edited November 2022 in Motorhomes #1

Hi all,

Has anyone else experienced water ingress when using external Silver Screens?

We've had them for a year and whenever we have heavy rain, there's always a slight trickle down the inside of the door.

We always make sure the silver flap is smooth over the door and Remis blinds, and it's not pulling tightly on the seal.

We definitely have the right Screens for our van and we don't have water ingress without the Screens. We've even tried tucking in the top main seam on the outside (as advised by Silver Screens) but that makes the leak worse.  

We all know that the benefits are huge at this time of year - so I don't want to give them up too easily. Is there anything else anyone has done to solve a problem like this?

Many thanks in advance!

 

 

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  • SteveL
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    edited November 2022 #2

    We had it for the first time in three and a half years of use this September. However, it was blowing 50 mph against the door. Where the pocket that goes over the Remis blind went through the seal there was a very minor ruck, but just enough to let the water in. A significant amount when driven by a gale force wind. Following that for the next gale I made absolutely certain where the material goes through the seal it was totally flat and there were no more problems. I also can’t see how tucking the main seam in would improve things.

  • peedee
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    edited November 2022 #3

    Interesting, not had a problem like this in over twenty years of use of an external silver screen. Is your screen made by >Silver Screens< or another manufacturer? My current screen is a Par-gon (Foldable) and has been in use with Remis blinds nearly 12 years now.

    It maybe worth posting your question on one of the dedicated motorhome forums, try >Motorhome Matters< it is free to post on it.

    peedee

     

     
  • Tinwheeler
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    edited November 2022 #4

    Over the years we used our Taylormade external screen on several vans but never experienced water ingress in this manner. Our vans were Sprinter based and Boxer/Ducato based so doors and windows were not always the same profile. The OP does not state what his base vehicle is.

  • ABM
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    edited November 2022 #5

    Never had a leak using external Taylormade or Silver Screens but I have to admit that I have always bought them from makers as prescribed for the vehicle they will be used on.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited November 2022 #6

    Not an expert or even a beginner and have no idea about how these things are held in place but just trying to help  - as it is just a trickle but could it condensation from the hot moist air inside condensing on the cold inside strap?

  • brue
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    edited November 2022 #7

    I would imagine the screen alters the door seal to some extent and under pressure water will get in. We don't use silver screens ourselves but know they are a popular purchase for some.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited November 2022 #8

    That did occur to me but I’d think others would have regularly found the same issue if that was the case and it would probably happen on both cab doors. The external screen prevents the glass becoming cold and the fabric pocket over the top corner of the door should be a similar temp to inside the van.

    My thoughts are tending towards a seal issue which might even be due to a slightly misaligned door.

    I perhaps didn’t explain my meaning very well earlier but, what I meant was, we don’t know the base vehicle of the OP's van so comparing experiences of our own Srinters/Boxers/Ducatos could be of no help if the OP has, say, a Ford.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited November 2022 #9

    Seems strange to me, we have never had a problem with ours. The triangular section which fits over the corner of the door, and is the only bit on the inside is very thin, and certainly doesn’t prevent the door from sealing on our AS. Make sure you aren’t accidentally trapping some of the thicker insulated outside panel at the top of the door as you close it is my advice to try first. That said, our AS has a tiny gutter to channel rainwater away above the door, so it doesn’t drip down. Good luck with it. 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited November 2022 #10

    Tbh, I doubt it affects the seal, Brue. As TDA said, the triangular pocket over the top corner of the door is very thin fabric and purpose designed for this use. It’s not a case of tucking in the thick padded screen across the top of the door.

  • SteveL
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    edited November 2022 #11

    My thoughts are tending towards a seal issue which might even be due to a slightly misaligned door.

    I would agree TW. The OP does say since they started using it and they checked it is smooth over the door. When ours leaked this year it was from one small area where the thin fabric wasn’t totally flat against the seal. You could see the water oozing through pushed by the strong wind. Only realised when I picked up my coat, which was in contact with the door and it was soaking wet. No problems since.

  • JVB66
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    edited November 2022 #12

    When we had a coach built Autocruise we had slight water ingress on the nearside door when it rained and the silver screen was fitted it was cured when the nearside door was "adjusted?" to make a tighter sealcool

  • brue
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    edited November 2022 #13

    It doesn't take much to alter a seal so all things are possible if something is introduced to the system, it doesn't have to be a large volume either.

    Hope all this has helped the op.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited November 2022 #14

    At least you could identify the cause, Steve. There has to be a reason such as your 'crinkle' or JV's misaligned door.

  • Nowti Berti
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    edited November 2022 #15

    Thanks so much for all your replies and thoughts - just to answer a few questions:

    The motorhome is a 2019 Knaus (Fiat Ducato) with the thicker Remis cab blinds.

    We've had very heavy rain in Sussex this weekend - it's definitely not condensation, and the leak happens on both sides, but only when the Screens are fitted. 

    They are genuine Silver Screens (for the appropriate blinds) and the company has been great, offering advice and even a full refund - but we really want to make them work!!

    Our dealership did a water test (without Screens), basically blasting a hosepipe at each window for a few minutes, and there wasn't a problem. Annoyingly, they wouldn't do one with Screens - which would have proved the point!

    Thanks again for your replies - it's much appreciated (as the Sussex rain begins again on a naked windscreen).

     

     

     

     

  • young thomas
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    edited November 2022 #16

    I think the clue is your reference to the 'thicker' Remis blinds...I can't specifically give any advice as we don't use external blinds (and we have an A Class van) but if the thicker blinds are putting the screen under more tension, the tops of the doors may be being pulled away from the 'fully closed' position.

    if the doors are fine without the blinds, it must be how the blinds are working..

    Other than that I can't think how the doors are being affected.