CL Price Rises

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  • Longtimecaravanner
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    edited July 2022 #32

    We were there in May last year and they had the holiday cottages but well away from the CL. They were talking about putting the pods on the first two caravan pitches and reducing down to three caravan pitches. I have nothing against pods but was saddened to think we might lose two pitches on a lovely site.

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited July 2022 #33

    Would be such a shame if they did that, but I suppose they imagine a greater profit in the long term. It would make the site rather cramped unless they put just one at the far end. Fingers crossed that they have decided against the idea.

  • DiverPhil
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    edited July 2022 #34

    Prices are certainly increasing across all CLs.

    One we have used and liked has  gone up from a reasonable £15 to £20 a night for a basic grass CL.

    New owners, in the space of just a few years it has doubled yet nothing has changed on the CL. Davochfin Farm Dornoch.

    Such a shame as it certainly doesn't warrant the £20 a night price. 

  • JVB66
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    edited July 2022 #35

    Those who complain about "excessive?" price increases on CLs really do need to take into consideration the"excessive"increases that owners have had in the running of them

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited July 2022 #36

    I agree. I'm blowed if I'd go to all the hassle and expense of running a CL for anything less than a sustainable sum. It's not a charitable organisation for the benefit of CAMC members. 

  • JVB66
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    edited July 2022 #37

    Some it seems live in days gone by when many CLs were run  as a hobby by land owners, ,when the cost of running them with all the regulations and safety that seems now a priority to counter litigation from some ,who these days,  seem to make a hobby out of getting money out of what ever they can,

    It may only be a few but as we all should know its the few who spoil it for the many in everything it seems mostt like to do responsibly 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited July 2022 #38

    Don't get carried away there. All I'm saying is the rewards have to justify the input.

  • JVB66
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    edited July 2022 #39

    Carried away? Or pointing out to those it seems who live with their heads in the sand

  • vbfg
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    edited July 2022 #40

    Cheers TDA.  I have always wanted to visit the lock Caan Hill Flight of locks.  It is not somewhere I have cruised in the boat as it is a difficult flight, especially single handed and apparently, there are few places to moor, which you are most probably aware of from info from your OH. I did stay at Hatton Country World CL a few years ago to walk the Hatton Flight and actually cruised it lagain last year on "Omega" but had a lot of assistance from the CRT volunteers and from the lovely couple in the other boat whom I shared the locks with.  That is a lovely lock flight to cycle and walk along and the cafe which is situated there is really good.

  • KjellNN
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    edited July 2022 #41

    We are currently on a CL near Chester we have used several times, it has been £15 for several,years.   When we booked, the owner apologised, saying that they would need to review the price this year, so we had budgeted for £20.

    It is a farm Cl, sheltered, hedged area, we have HS, EHU, own tap, waste to hedge, and there is a good toilet and separate shower available if you wish.   Also alternative grass pitches, kept well mown.

    When we arrived, the owner again apologised that prices had gone up as they had to pay increased electricity and insurance costs, so the  fee was now £18.   For what is on offer I think this is very reasonable compared to what some are now charging!

     

  • JVB66
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    edited July 2022 #42

    The farm type CLs and those without any other income to help  cover costs are quite a different set up which could well make it not viable what some think is expensive 

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited July 2022 #43

    I did stay at Hatton Country World CL a few years ago to walk the Hatton Flight and actually cruised it again last year on "Omega" but had a lot of assistance from the CRT volunteers and from the lovely couple in the other boat whom I shared the locks with. That is a lovely lock flight to cycle and walk along and the cafe which is situated there is really good.

    Remember the Hatton Flight from my, much younger, boating days. Plus the delightfully named Itchington Bottom Locksmile

    Have you thought of Home Farm at Stoke Bruerne, I don't think it has EHU. There is another one near Leighton Buzzard, Grove Lock? We recently stayed at Overwater Marina at Audlem.

    David

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited July 2022 #44

    OH says it is indeed a spectacular sight, and a good hard cycling work out😁 We cycled from Warwick Racecourse Site along paths of I think Grand Union? That was good, I left OH early, but he found the nice cafe. Somewhere to go back to again. We have the South Yorkshire Navigation Canal close to us, and often do spurs off this. Loads of interesting industrial heritage.

    We discovered the Grantham Canal earlier this year. Very rural, lovely cycling along the banks and linking up to other rides. I think the only barge on it runs from the pub on the Belvior Estate, but it’s a lovely place. Belvior Castle close by of course. We used Casthorpe Farm CL, I left a review.

  • vbfg
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    edited July 2022 #45

    Hi David

    I stayed at Overwater for a couple of nights last year as we were thinking of moving Omega there.  I was very impressed with the marina and the CL and we have made arrangements to move there.  I would not mind a CL too much without a toilet/shower, but I am afraid that no EHU is a step too far for me, as I don't have any solar power.  I am hoping to change my M/H for a newer model so will buy one with solar panels or have them fitted on any new M/H that I buy.

  • KjellNN
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    edited July 2022 #46

    The one I commented on earlier, where the price had apparently gone from £18 to £23 without warning, was also a farm type CL, but had no facilities, so IMO is a good comparison in price/costs with the one we are on now.

    I think their prices had been pushed well up because it is in a popular tourist area.

     

  • Wherenext
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    edited July 2022 #47

    Vbfg:

    I agree that the Caen Locks are a wondrous sight to behold, if not to run  barge through. We always enjoy it when we are in the area, which we were last year.

    One CL which you may want to look into staying as it is within 100 yards of the K&A canal is:

    https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/certificated-locations/england/wiltshire/marlborough/church-farm-3/

    There's the added bonus of a pub within walking distance for a pint and a meal and Devizes is but 5 minutes away in the car. I did do a review which should be on there.

  • Hja
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    edited July 2022 #48

    We are currently at The Anchor CL near to Stafford on the Shropshire Union canal.
    Grass pitches, ehu. £18.50 a night.
    absolutely peaceful. Lots of walking along the canal if you want. A reasonable about of traffic on the canal. 
    I will do a few review when we get back home.

  • DiverPhil
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    edited July 2022 #49

    The CL I mentioned earlier is a farm CL, I think £20 for basic grass is to much.

    A much more reasonable price would be £15.

    Another CL we use not to far away, is £15 and not on a farm.  He was £12 until this year now £15, he has h/s pitches so more effort and cost yet he can keep the price down.

    An increase of £5 per pitch is way more than the electricity cost.

    I agree with your comment that what was on offer was good for £18. 

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited July 2022 #50

    It was quite usual to see CLs increase prices around £1-£1.50 each year. Now they are going up £4-£5 each year in some instances. Including the ones without hook ups🤔 Mind, that’s nothing compared to the price increases for cottages in some locations. 

  • Goldie146
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    edited July 2022 #51

    I think that sometimes CLs don’t put their prices up for several years, then realise that costs have increased in the meantime, so the jump seems a bit excessive. Better to do it gradually. 

  • brue
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    edited July 2022 #52

    Covid closures have probably added to this too and prices have been out of kilter.

  • JVB66
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    edited July 2022 #53

    How many times has it been reported on here the "the price shown in the handbook was less than we were charged on arrival.?"when the price in the handbook could be at least 3 years old by this year even if the CL had updated their prices and info when the handbook. was printedundecided

  • cyberyacht
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    edited July 2022 #54

    It's also a case of what people perceive as reasonable. £10 for grass, water & waste. Add £5 if EHU and possibly another £5 if a decent loo/shower, not a home for spiders and woodlice.

    Start asking £18-20 just for grass, water & waste is not going to attract many punters.

  • JVB66
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    edited July 2022 #55

    I think you need to come into todays world of pricing and the running costs of todays CLs surprised

  • Tammygirl
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    edited July 2022 #56

    Totally agree with your post, those are the prices that we would expect to pay and happy to do so. Not happy to pay £20+ for a patch of rough grass, a tap and some place to empty the toilet.

  • JVB66
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    edited July 2022 #58

    How much does it cost at todays prices to insure ,  empty the toilet emptying point, even cut the grass

    I was shown a bill for emptying cess pits twice weekly about 15 years ago and it was then £204 per load 

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited July 2022 #59

    Agree completely. I guess they are taking advantage of the promotion of the 500 circuit. A good site but definitely not a £20 pn site. Had the previous owner not passed away I'm sure that it would not have risen so much in price.

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited July 2022 #60

    Vbfg

    We are currently on Glandir Cl near Welshpool which is a few hundreds of yards from the Montgomeryshire Canal. £18 pn with with H/ S and water at each pitch. This might suit your needs, and there's also a pub between the site and the canal!!

    https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/certificated-locations/wales/powys/welshpool/glandir/

     

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited July 2022 #61

    I suppose somebody new coming to the ownership would have carefully looked at the costs (the site does have EHU). Perhaps also looked at other facilities that seem to be offered by the business and concluded that prices either had to go up or would take a price increase. The proof of the pudding will be in the level of occupancy they get. Looking at the availability chart there seems plenty of it? Now is that historic or is it because of a price hike? 

    David