Morn Hill Refurbishment

DavidKlyne
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edited June 2022 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

We went to a wedding yesterday in Farnham which is on the A31. On the way back this morning I stopped off at Morn Hill to see how things were proceeding. I could only see the first section and it looks as if some of the buildings are almost complete and the hardstanding pitches are in place. Below are a couple of pictures taken from the entrance. Couldn't see what was happening on the upper section. We have booked a stay in September so hope its finished by then!

David 

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  • RedKite
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    edited June 2022 #2

    Thanks David for the photos looks like it is moving along well and hope it is finished on time.

    We have a friend who used to use it when visiting friends but no longer in the area now so may not use it as the prices will be much higher. A long time since we have stayed there so may consider it for the future.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited June 2022 #3

    RK

    It will be interesting to see the finished site. We have used it a bit in the past to visit relatives in and around Southampton. My understanding (according to a warden I spoke to some years ago) was that the Club owned one section of the site and Winchester City Council the other and it seems to have taken years and years to resolve the issue. I was concerned the whole site would close but well done the Club for sorting it out. What I couldn't see was what was happening at the upper section which I assume is also being upgraded? I will report back if our visit goes ahead as planned. Unfortunately the pub that was on the corner is no longer a pub. Not really sure what it is now, possibly a B&B?

    David

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  • DavidKlyne
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    edited June 2022 #5

    Since my photos were taken I have discovered a bit more about the refurbishment from a comment on Facebook and the Planning Application. It seems that the upper section will remain  configured as it is now with grass pitches but there will be a badly needed new toilet block. The lower section (nearer the old pub) will be all hardstandings and everything will be new. This section will apparently be open all years but the upper section will be seasonal. All this subject to confirmation by the Club.

    David

  • peedee
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    edited July 2022 #6

    Club's web page says it will open on the 1st September. I was looking for a night stop but at £32.I think I will be giving it a miss. That's a bit expensive for just a one nighter.unless desperate.

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  • DavidKlyne
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    edited July 2022 #7

    Our stay is a bit later in September and it's a tiny bit cheaper at £31. For us it's the convenience as we have family locally and I understand we can go into Winchester on the bus from near the site. I suppose just for a one night stopover it's not so crucial where you stay? I must admit I have not explored the options because I wanted to stay so I could see how different it is from the original site.

    David

  • wellum1959
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    edited July 2022 #8

    What is a Premium pitch ?  They are listed at £4 more than even a serviced pitch and nearly £9 more than a standard pitch. Looking at the site plans there are just two at Morn Hill and four at Clumber Park.

    I cannot find any information in the site description unless i'm not looking close enough.

    Are they simply extra large?

    Mike

  • Cornersteady
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    edited July 2022 #9

    Have a look here (I admit not easy to find): https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/uk-holidays/useful-information/types-of-pitch/

    Premium pitches
    These larger (than standard) pitches provide individual facilities, including all-weather pitching surface, illuminated electrical hook up bollard, facilities for drinking water, an individual ground-level connection to accept grey water disposal, a hedge between each pitch for privacy, a picnic bench and BBQ station for disposable BBQs. There is an additional charge for this pitch type. Water hoses should be the same length as the electrical hook up cable (25m)

    There's also a super pitch

    These pitches offer individual facilities: with space for an awning, all-weather pitching surface, illuminated electrical hook-up bollard (including booster TV aerial outlet), facilities for drinking water, grey water and chemical disposal, ground-level inlet to accept foul water (grey water or sewage) and privacy hedge between each pitch. There is an additional charge for this pitch type 

  • peedee
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    edited July 2022 #10

    To checkout pitch types see >this page<

    I suppose just for a one night stopover it's not so crucial where you stay?

    Exactly David, you would at least expect the ferry pitches to be more competively priced for one nighters. I too have family not far from the site and I might use it in the off season. On previous visits I have used the Body Farm CL. I will probably try one of the other CLs in the area for the one nighter and a change.

    It looks like the web pages on re-developments and the site were updated late yesterday and the site is now going to open on 15th August.

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  • peedee
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    edited July 2022 #11

    Have a look here (I admit not easy to find)

    There is a link to pitch types on every calandar page showing availability of every site Corners. Its even highlighted

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    Pitch Availability
    We have displayed all available pitch types for this Site. Choose your preferred pitch type and then select the dates using the drop down menus. Please remember you cannot stay on a site for more than 21 nights. For more information on pitch types, please visit the Pitch types page of the website (opens in a new window).

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  • Cornersteady
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    edited July 2022 #12

    you would at least expect the ferry pitches to be more competively priced for one nighters

    Why would you? Why should those using a ferry, or just wanting a one nighter, expect cheaper and/or subsidised pitches on a club site? Pay your own full way PD?

    And are there really actual pitches labelled/designed as ferry pitches on this site? 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited July 2022 #13

    Thanks every days a learning day! though for someone who says they are not interested in club sites and vote with your wheels you sure know your way aroundsmile

    I'm sure w1959 will be happy too.

  • wellum1959
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    edited July 2022 #14

    Thanks for pointing me in the right direction for the pitch descriptions. Interestingly the premium pitch is not yet listed as a choice on the app, perhaps given its rating on Google play that shouldn't be a surprise.

    Not that i intend to book such a pitch but just interested in the clubs possible future intentions.

  • JVB66
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    edited July 2022 #15

    They used to keep some near the exit. barrier  on the top site for one night stopover and early departures bone that I remember being designated as "ferry pitches" but as you say why a cheaper price?

  • peedee
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    edited July 2022 #16

    That is because I suspect I make more effort than most to see what is available and the alternatives.

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  • Cornersteady
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    edited July 2022 #17

    Your suspicion could well be correct, or notsmile

    Although why you should be looking at premium and super pitches when you say normal pitches are too expensive (yet you use them quite a lot) is one of life's great mysteries.

  • peedee
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    edited July 2022 #18

    And there was I gently pointing out the obvious without a dig!

    Members may only briefly use a ferry pitch, arrive late, leave early and may not even need electric for a short visit. Ferry pitches need not be to the same standard as other pitches, e.g they could be a small area of hard standing, non awning and therefore cheaper to build.

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  • peedee
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    edited July 2022 #19

    Although why you should be looking at premium and super pitches when you say normal pitches are too expensive (yet you use them quite a lot) is one of life's great mysteries.

    There you go again Corners, just because I was trying to be helpful.

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  • JVB66
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    edited July 2022 #20

     But I would expect Google to be out of date as the whole site is still?closed for a complete rebuildsurprised

  • Cornersteady
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    edited July 2022 #21

    No need PD for that, I'm simply stating a fact as supplied by you. 

    And yes ferry pitches do exist as I had to find out for myself undecided but again why would you expect them to be cheaper for you personally just because you are only using them for one night?

    As far as I can see they are not any different than other pitches (are they) and perhaps as JVB says they might be nearer to the exit I can't see how or why they should be cheaper? Will they use any less of the facilities/showers/hot water or are they non EHU? I personally don't think so and usage would be automatically less?

    Members may only briefly use a ferry pitch, arrive late, leave early and may not even need electric for a short visit. Ferry pitches need not be to the same standard as other pitches, e.g they could be a small area of hard standing, non awning and therefore cheaper to build

    A lot of mays and/or coulds there PD, and cheaper? So just because someone may do something it should be cheaper,? As I said it's not automatic at all and really all those things could be said of other pitches too? What about showers and toilets? 

  • Rowena
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    edited July 2022 #22

    Please can we keep the conversation friendly and avoid arguments. Every one can make their point but please then conclude and not continue on as this can then lead to disagreements. We want Club Together to be a friendly place free from arguments. Many thanks. 

  • SteveL
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    edited July 2022 #23

    As things stand with the ferry pitches there is no justification for them being cheaper. We stopped one night on the Rookesbury Park ones. A very nice area by the entrance, with long hardstanding areas surrounded by grass, such that caravans do not need to unhitch unless they want to. Our 6.94m MH was fairly swallowed. You have access to all facilities and don’t have to hurry if you don’t want to. We arrived earlier than we expected at 7pm and collected our instruction/ site plan from a board. The site manager wandered across and offered to let us onto the main site if we wanted to, as it was still before 8pm. However, we decided to stay where we were. We left about 10:30am. Others that arrived later, left earlier. At £30.40 it was expensive, but we felt well worth it for us.

    Certainly with a MH a patch of gravel, water and disposal facilities is all we need. If these were provided at a reduced price we would use them. One major problem is space and the 6 metre rule. When I commented on the very roomy pitches the Site Manager explained that a few years ago there were a lot more, but due to 6 metres between units the number had to be  significantly reduced. That alone is not conducive to lower prices.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited July 2022 #24

    If the Club offered a few smaller pitches for ferry users that might justify a lower price but the requirement for 6 mts spacing as Steve points out makes that almost impossible to justify. I just wonder whether we need so many pitch types? Standard and Serviced make sense but beyond that? To me the club should aim to provide a spacious pitch as standard and a bit of greenery between pitches would be a bonus.

    David

  • Cornersteady
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    edited July 2022 #25

     Is there a limit on the amount of days one can book for a ferry pitch? Otherwise what is to stop someone booking a few days or more at a cheaper price? Could happen maybe but at least at the same price it would put off doing it?

    As I see it it's a club site for people who want to use a club before their ferry? 

  • SteveL
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    edited July 2022 #26

    We weren’t able to book Rookesbury on line, only by phoning the site. I would assume you are restricted to the one night as there are so few pitches. (They have a similar number to MH) If you wanted to stay longer you could move onto the site the next day.