Swift Gas Locker

Robert
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edited April 2022 in Caravans #1

Hi All I have a 2018 year swift caravan When using in the high winds we had recently I noticed draughts coming in around front corner & front roof light My dealer says that all Swifts are like this it is coming from the Gas Locker Gas regulations say that Gas locker should be sealed from living area which is not the case with Swift i don't know about other makes I have spoke to gas Safe who state that gas lockers that are not accessible from inside the vechile must be sealed To me sealed means sealed Swift state that they allow air flow to stop condensation

Are there any gas sae engineers here who would like to comment?? My dealer has told Swift they have inspected the van & can find no issues I asked who is their gas safe registered engineer & they stated they don't have one

How can someone not gas safe registered state my van is safe  My point is yes there are gas drop out vents but if it windy & I had a gas leak it would be blown back into the caravan

 

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  • Tinwheeler
    Tinwheeler Forum Participant Posts: 23,138 ✭✭✭
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    edited April 2022 #2

    Unless the regs have changed recently, Gas Safe does not apply to touring caravans other than those let for hire. That is the reason the LV industry will not have Gas Safe engineers but employ competent persons suitably trained in accordance with NCC guidance.

    Your gas locker should be fitted with gas drop vents - holes in the floor - and any leaking LPG will vent downwards through those as gas is heavier than air.

    Personally, I don’t suspect you have a problem. Vents are all over your caravan in appropriate places to prevent condensation and allow the escape of any noxious substances.

     

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2022 #3
  • Pippah45
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    edited April 2022 #4

    Robert I agree with you it should be sealed properly and that sounds like another Swift excuse!  

    Several years ago with my Abbey caravan I was on my way to France a couple of weeks after servicing the van at the dealership.  Stopped for the night on the route and kind campsite suggested I stayed hitched up.  The only patch of sun was between the back of the car and the caravan so I had my supper there.  I smelt gas very strongly - so turned it off to deal with at my next stop.  They hadn't even fixed the connecting pipe finger tight at the caravan end of it!  So yes it needs to be a competent person doing gas work on a caravan but not all dealers employ competent people!  I think it was lucky that I don't smoke!  

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2022 #5

    I’m not excusing Swift's or the dealer's poor workmanship, Pippah, but the fact that the gas leaked to the outside where you noticed the smell is exactly what is meant to happen.

  • Robert
    Robert Forum Participant Posts: 61
    edited April 2022 #6

    Thanks for replies Sorry tin wheeler but caravan industry must comply with the gas regulations that is why they are there If you would like to check look under LPG regulation section  5  Yes there is gas drop out vents in gas locker but if there are winds it could blow leaking gas back into caravan that is why regulation states gas bottle locker must be sealed from living area

  • Pippah45
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    edited April 2022 #7

    Only because the locker was open Tinwheeler dread to think what might have happened later when in bed - although it may have gone through the vents.  

  • Robert
    Robert Forum Participant Posts: 61
    edited April 2022 #8

    as i understand it the only competent person inspecting gas appliances should be a gas safe registered person who has under gone the training needed to give a report

  • Pippah45
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    edited April 2022 #9

    When the above happened to me around 8 years ago there was no gas safe necessary for touring caravans.  Mobile homes come under gas safe regs.  Because the dealer didn't take me seriously I reported them to Trading Standards who took it very seriously.  They also had a box of dud connector leads with split brass fittings - they didn't believe I could smell gas to begin with - but there was a great split in the brass!  Never darkened their door since of course!  

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2022 #10

    I posted a link to the Legislation and touring caravans are specifically listed as not being covered other than when they are for hire. Static caravans are a different matter as Pippah says. I leave it at that.

  • Robert
    Robert Forum Participant Posts: 61
    edited April 2022 #11

    I read that tin wheeler no mention of gas lockers unfortunately had no replies from gas registered engineers yet for their input  I think I will leave it to gas safe to sort out

  • commeyras
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    edited April 2022 #12

    Robert make sure a gas safe person does not block off the built in ventilation in the caravan.