Club prices getting silly

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2021 #32

    LPG prices are linked to oil prices rather than gas prices and we know what's happening with oil!

    We, too, run our heating off LPG at home fed by a bulk tank supplying 70 homes. Our prices vary constantly and are set to rocket from 42p per litre to 55p and beyond.

  • SeasideBill
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    edited October 2021 #33

    Don’t know about wholesale gas prices, but generally LPG and heating oil prices follow a similar pattern. I paid 30p/litre this time last year and 65p/litre last week. I’d expect the % increase for LPG over the same period to be very similar. Also, don’t mention the ‘shortage’ word, it’s entirely possible that we’ll see panic buying for both this winter, sites may struggle to get LPG.

  • Navigateur
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    edited October 2021 #34

    if you want EHU you pay if not then you don't, should increase the clubs green credentials a bit anyway

    I think you have got this idea the wrong way round.   If not on EHU one is using gas for heating, cooking and refridgeration. Burning gas is bad for the environment as it produces CO2 and carbon particles, whereas electricity generation is heading to be free of these polutants.

    So EHU pitches should be made cheaper to be "greener"

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2021 #35

    How would 2022prices  have been factered iin when We have been able to book 2022sites since April this year ,with site prices for 2022 already in place ,? At the rate the chanceller has it seems agreed and seems to have not been expectedsurprised

  • SteveL
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    edited October 2021 #36

    In a past life I had several years in planning. I was certainly factoring in cost variations for many years ahead. When they set the 2022 prices they would almost certainly have considered potential rises in minimum wage. I don’t see the forecast rise as particularly exceptional and most if not all of it should have been allowed for when setting the prices.

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2021 #37

    According to reports the rate was expected to be £9.00 it seems many have been surprised at the extra 50p

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited October 2021 #38

    Why is your first reaction to attack?🤷🏻‍♂️, I didn’t attack you or your post I just posted my thoughts-not against anyone or anything. Why not try not being so combative & see how it goes👍🏻

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited October 2021 #39

    Yes thanks MT👍🏻, I was musing over the bigger picture re increases meaning nothing in the long run, I’d pushed the narrative further🙂

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2021 #40

    Attack? If you followed the thread from the start it is/was about site notices which bi commented on with the eatra  pressures of the latest  national living wage on site prices ,it was you who went off on a tangent againcool

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2021 #41

    Thankyou   so glad there is one who understands ,very few others it seems following the OPcool

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2021 #42

    Of course we follow the OP! To imply otherwise is an insult.

    I understood the point about the increase in the minimum wage and also Rocky's post which expanded on it. My earlier post is also related.

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2021 #43

    coolundecided

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited October 2021 #44

    Thanks Tinster-it’s nice to read someone who’s capable of seeing the bigger picture rather than having a parochial mindset👍🏻

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2021 #45

    It was obvious to all really but some were either unwilling or incapable of seeing it. 

    To be accused of posting off topic by one who masters in it was funny 😄 

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2021 #46

    I wonder why a post as yours it quite expected as.  tend to try your usual side step and attacks  you realy  have little ideacool

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2021 #47

    You disappoint me. You left out "Real world" and "Look in the mirror".😕

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2021 #48

    Waste of time when  it is impossible to sink inwink

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited October 2021 #49

    You forgot-“‘its why. As expected’ , from it being you iscoolundecidedwink

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2021 #50

    Thanks for the reminder, Rocky🤣🤣🤣

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2021 #51

    You seem to have got a bit confused again with your posting coolundecidedwink

  • Buteman
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    edited October 2021 #52

    It's time CAMC simplified their pricing structure and improved transparency.

    In many cases it's now cheaper to stay overnight in a budget hotel or park up overnight in pub car park after enjoying the landlord's hospitality!

  • JollyKernow
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    edited October 2021 #53

     "As noted"yell

    JK

  • Bob Colquhoun
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    edited October 2021 #54

    Having been a member for over 30 years I agree. Expensive, good but authoritarian sites and a loss of the fact that this is meant to be a club owned by members. So where's the members say in the costing? Going the same way as the rest of the country🤔

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2021 #55

    "It seems" 😄

  • brue
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    edited October 2021 #56

    Have to say Broadway in June is an expensive place to be, in any type of accommodation! Premium tourist spots attract premium prices.

  • ellemae
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    edited October 2021 #57

    Well although the ACSI book was wasted for us abroad 2021. We managed a wonderful 6 night stay at Tavistock Camping Woodovis Park using acsi €20. Beautiful indoor heated pool. A dog spa with warm water honey and oatmeal shampoo + low temperature hairdryer. Powerful spotless showers. We parked the motorhome in a layby for the day and cycled ‘ the drake trail’ Tavistock to Plymouth. Motorhome map for Dartmoor. All for £107.

    We also used c&cc club sites for Devon which were reasonably in September.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited October 2021 #58

    People always have the option of voting with their feet, if they feel prices are too high they can always go elsewhere. In the meantime regardless of the prices charged CMC sites still seem to be heavily booked. Even if that were to change I think we have to be careful in thinking what the Club might do. With pressure growing on wages and it seems the ability to recruit staff, the ever rising costs on external maintenance fees plus large increases in energy costs what options does the Club have. I imagine they would have to start looking at the parts of the organisation which don't give sufficient return to make them worthwhile? 

    David

  • EmilysDad
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    edited October 2021 #59

     6.6% increase .... I don't think we'll manage to get the same at next year's pay negotiations

  • Extugger
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    edited October 2021 #60
     

    I'm not entirely sure your statement is correct Bob. The Caravan Club Ltd is an organisation which represents it's members (although at what, I'm not sure) but is not owned by them. It's a business which is run like most other limited companies, providing goods and services. The Club sites are generally of similar standards and if you should use one for just 5 days, in any one year, you will recoup the £54 joining (membership) fee.

    Obviously there are other benefits in becoming a member - access to some 2000 CL's for example. However, like any business, goods and services will increase in cost and these costs are passed on to the end user. Your weekly groceries, heating bills and of course petrol/diesel prices have all seen recent hikes.

    As RandR suggest in the OP, prices are seemingly ridiculous on Club sites, but you either pay to use them, or you don't.  Voting with your feet is one option and one which I took, but not necessarily based on Site prices.

     
  • Justus2
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    edited October 2021 #61

    Higher prices for club sites this year have certainly reduced our desire to use them. In 2021 it has been a mere 17 nights on this club's sites yet we have been away for nearly 70 nights in all. If prices continue to rise further our bookings of this clubs sites will probably reduce still further, especially as we have, since covid, not used a single toilet block even if available, preferring to use our own facilities instead. I expect in 2022 that we will continue to seek out those cheaper alternatives probably with no facilities. Club sites seem to be failing to meet our requirements at the moment.