Cancellation reasons
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I think that's spot on Nellie.
Having spoken to a few villagers this week I know many never have a full tank as they can't afford to have money sitting around like that. They put £10-15 in the tank every weekend for next week so they were panicking as they were the ones running nearer empty. Any selfish ones were the ones who had near full tanks and topped them up or used jerry cans for stockpiling when they didn't necessarily need to.
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Yes, I guess that may be true Nellie, and as ever, it will be those who have a real need who will be penalised by those who buy regardless of their need (like the lady reported last week as buying her £30 worth and then immediately moving on to the next pump for another £30 worth!)
Kenexton - I don't buy this "there's no real problem, it's all the BBC conspiracy theory". The news on ITV, C4 and Sky were all reporting the same thing as we're most of the newspapers of all shades! And the government response of drafting in the army and issuing visas for European drivers simply confirms what a mess the country is in, hopefully temporarily, but who knows with this lot in charge of things?
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Yet more BBC hyperbole in support of the BBC "hidden agenda"?
I think that sentence tells where your real agenda lies. No mention by you of the right wing press stating exactly the same as the BBC. All one big conspiracy theory eh? First time the BBC, the Mirror and the Telegraph have got into bed together.
I'm see that you were able to get home fine but as CY states further up thread he had trouble finding fuel and had to cut short his break and I personally saw multiple garages closed last weekend when we were away and have continued to see some local ones still without fuel. So, no conspiracy theory. You'll just have to accept the BBC was right this time. Can't win them all.
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I can back that up, WN. Down in the SW there was no fuel at either of the two garages we passed at Wadebridge on Monday, however by Thursday, at Redruth we drove straight up to the pump at Morrison's for fuel having passed a couple of other filling stations with minimal queues to fill up.
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Moulsey never said that there is "no problem" but that it is not quite as bad as is being reported.Conflation of separate issues by the BBC dropped a pebble in the pond and the Media rippled on....the Public reacted to that.
The situation is far more complex than is being reported in the Media.I find to be quite ironic that when "market forces " eventually work in favour of a particular employee group the former beneficiaries of former market conditions in operaton complain bitterly when circumstances work against their interests,
They blame the Government but we do not live in a centralised "command economy",so the power of the latter is very limited,
The BBC wanted the status quo to continue and lobbied for it, events turned out otherwise for them and their ilk.
It will all come out in the wash,eventually, regardless of whoever is in Power.
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Had occasion to call Green Flag today, nothing to do with fuel shortage, but as I sat there listening to the recorded messages they made it clear they’re subject to the same supply problems as the rest of us and will not bring fuel to stranded motorists. Wouldn’t want to find myself in that situation a long way from home.
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I suspect the fuel problem varies a great deal around the country. However the London area seems to be suffering more than elsewhere. Probably because of the size of the population relative to other areas of the country? Much of the media is London centric so hardly surprising all media, not just the BBC, are highlighting the issue. One fuel station owner was saying on Channel Four news that when his tanks are full it usually lasts five days but it was gone in hours so I don't know how anyone can cope with that? I am not sure you can blame panic buying either because if any of us get a sniff of a shortage of fuel the natural thing to do is to make sure our tanks are full. After all how do we know when we might have to make an emergency trip somewhere for all sorts of reasons? The culprit here seems to be a leaked report from BP saying they were struggling to meet the demand for fuel fill ups because of a driver shortage. As they say the rest is history!!!
David
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Yes, something like 8300 stations in the UK, doesn’t sound many for 40+ million vehicles and most of them are mini or supermarkets first and fuel forecourts second. If fuel continues to be a loss leader for some supermarkets the situation can only get worse.
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DavidKlyne said:
"I am not sure you can blame panic buying either because if any of us get a sniff of a shortage of fuel the natural thing to do is to make sure our tanks are full."
You just defined what panic buying is!
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Why are you attacking the BBC ,it has been on all news channels
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Yes, we got home (thanks to a 90 ltr tank) OK but also saw quite a few closed stations....but up through Dorset and back into Somerset fuel was available.
back home our local Sainsbury had fuel (unleaded) but the bollards were out as a tanker was imminent...this was my back up but I went up the road to an Esso station and they had fuel being restricted (by the pump) to £35 worth...just right for a nr full tank for the shopper. Should last for a good while now.
Re: the panic...this seems to start when it was reported that BP were closing a small number of stations due to driver shortages....this seemed to resonate and folk started into 'toilet roll' mode...everywhere....creating a shortage where there perhaps wasn't one?
then the news just fans the flames....it is their job to report, but i situations like this, the news worsens the situation...
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The panic buying for Xmas has started with stores that have frozen turkeys saying they are now nil stock
When I managed to get some diesel Morrisons (no restrictions) the woman on,the pump pump in front of me with her late registered Land rover disco went on the pump the same time as me ,and had paid and driven off while I was still filling
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Can turkeys talk?
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Basic economics, heating oil price has gone off the scale. All those city folks who’ve decided to work at home from some rural idyll need to factor heating costs into the equation!
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Twos - it's not Wherenext attacking the BBC! He was replying to an earlier post blaming them and pointing out, as I did, that ITV, C4 and Sky were all saying the same thing. You'll have to read back a couple of pages for the original post.
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There was an haulage expert on GB News recently 🤔 yesterday I believe he said the reason for the hike in fuel prices was..... wait for it 😁 * Price Drift *😮.
Apparently that's where the cost of recently purchased crude oil price catches up with the forecourt cost of fuel & it gets more expensive 😮 I say b*llocks it's pure profit driven greed by the big garage chains that have fuel, & where the small independent filling stations have to have what's given them.
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+1👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻. When it goes up to match crude prices it does it in leaps & bounds, when crude checks & falls it comes down at the pumps ‘the next month’ because that’s how they do it🤣🤣. When it coming down it’s by the odd penny per litre. The Govt has given them free reign to do whatever by suspending the competition rules. Translation-‘everyone’s(big oil) snout can now be in the trough at once’.
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I've only just read this thread as I was away on holiday near North Berwick while all this was going on. During my stay I paid two visits to Tesco ( driven by the small capacity of the caravan freezer ) and on the first visit there was a single customer at their pumps, and on the second none at all, and the prices seemed reasonable.
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Not too bad here in N Warks. One petrol station was putting a limit of £30 for fuel but the supermarket just over the hill in Tamworth seem fine... Queues are no more than the usual busy forecours at Sainsbury's and Asda.
I have booked a couple of sites in November with the hope that all will be well by then, but the last thing anyone wants is to travel out to a site and not be able to get back at the end of your stay..... but, at the moment, judging from what I see locally, it's not too bad....
David
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To link cancellations and fuel shortages I came across something interesting. We had booked Henley a while ago but could only get three days. By chance I went on yesterday and there is availability all through October and November for both awning and non awning pitches. Now unless they have changed their minds about taking grass pitches out of operation it seems very strange that there is now so much availability when two weeks ago it was virtually fully booked?
David
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We are at Stamford this Sunday , I phoned the site this morning just to confirm the arrival time, for some reason for the last 2 years we've been I was under the impression that it was 1 pm & we arrived after 1 🤔 its 12am.
Anyway the warden said whatever time you arrive, you're on hardstanding, so it looks like the grass pitches are finished till next season. 😉😁
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We're off just down the M42 to Chapel Lane soon, but I've booked a serviced pitch. I also need to pop home for a dental appointment whilst away, so it will be a bit of an odd few days. Determined to get away in the caravan before our daughter and son-in-law come down to stay from the Outer Hebrides.... and, of course, our new grandson, Euan!
David
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We haven't had to worry about fuel thanks to our EV (it takes 8 pints of petrol so no problems there as that lasts for a long time) but our motorhome was half empty and we're off to see the family in the midlands and north east fairly soon. OH went out today (Somerset) our nearest village garage was limiting fuel to £15 and the next two garages a bit further away had a £30 limit (with someone on duty checking!!) We are now filled up at £1.49.9 per litre. It's going to be an expensive trip!
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