Flexibility Please

chasncath

We're on a 5 week tour of NW England and SW Scotland and are currently at New England Bay, our fifth C&MC site. The now universal installation of non-return valves at waste water and CEP points is praiseworthy; however, when fitted with semi-rigid hoses they are a nightmare. If you try to flex the hose, they kink,shut off the flow, and water surges out of the sides of the valve! Here at New England, the taps are fitted with blue flexible hoses which work a treat- no flooding and soaked shoes.

Calling all wardens to throw away your yellow hoses and get flexible blue:-)

JVB66

An even better solution we have noted on some sites is washing machine  water connecting pipes

SteveL

Why can’t they just fit the type of non return taps we have in our garden at home. That doesn’t spray all over you if you turn it on more than a trickle.

chasncath

I had hoped that this topic would have generated much heated discussion, given that there is no national shortage of blue food grade flexible tubing. I'm grateful for your contributions. 

Meanwhile, it's chucking it down here in Galloway!

DavidKlyne

I think part of the problem on chemical disposal points is that often a cheap hose is use. I have come across a flexible hose which was good. I think often the problem is where there is only one hose for both cleaning the waste point and rinsing the cassette. 

David

mapman

I had an interesting conversation  about this with a warden recently. The non return valve is needed to stop contamination back to the tap and pipework. The problem in his view was that the tap plus valve was too low so that in order to wash out cassette people raised the yellow pipe kinking it and got soaked. His simple solution on a site he had been on previously was to erect a longer post and reposition the tap 50cm or so above the current position. Result: nobody needed to raise and  kink the pipe whatever height they had the cassette!  However he was told he could not make the same modification at his current site. 

Moderator Comment - Post edited to remove derogatory about Club staff

DSB

The best system I have seen was at a non-club site  that had a small rose on the end of a pipe (like a shower head), but with an integrated trigger which switched on the water when pressed.  It was just the right size for cleaning out the cassette, and was also good for washing down the CDP.

David

EasyT

I think the problem is poor design

SteveL

I don’t have any problem with the general design. That would be for a few we have come across over there. Like DK I think they need two taps. Those that do, like our current site, are very easy to use without soaking your feet.   

EasyT

If the taps were at chest level there would be no need to kink them to wash out cassette and disposal. An additional tap at lower level could also be provided for anybody in a wheelchair etc.

SteveL

If you are going to place a lower level tap then I see no advantage to the higher one. On this site there is one positioned over the disposal with a length of hose that can be angled about to clean it, without kinking the hose. Plus a second with a short length just outside the disposal for filling the cassette to rinse. The cassette can be rested on the ground while filling with rinsing water. Both would be accessible to a wheel chair user.

EasyT

It is having the tap too low that causes it to kink when you rest the cassette on typical CMC timber surround to fill. 

MikeyA

You (and everyone else) can see what the problem is but why haven't the Club sorted it?

 

young thomas

Previous club site had two taps...

one with non-return valve and length of blue hose (presumably) for rinsing the CCEP, which was how I used it...

the second one had no attachments and I just put the cassette 'hole' close to it and put a bit of water in...no need to place the cassette anywhere specific (neither timber surround nor ground), I just held it in position for a few seconds.

a swill about and straight down the CCEP...then a rinse of the CCEP with the other tap and hose.

not sure we need two taps but it seemed to work OK.

chasncath

Just arrived at Hawes. Pleased to report that cep hose is corrugated super-flexible, non-kinking ! 

chasncath

My mistake ! Flex hose at waste water point, but a long length of rigid pipe dangling down into the void at cep. Don't fancy handling the end of that!

BavnElly

We are currently at a ‘different’ club’s site…they have a trigger on the hose which you press to switch water on.  As the designated ‘emptier’, the best I have used 👍😃

nelliethehooker

After reading of how items go "missing" in the toilets on certain club sites I just wonder how long it would be before those trigger hoses would "disappear" ?