Payload Help!
I'm totally confused and am hoping that you wise, more experienced bunch will be able to help!
I've just purchased a beautiful 2019 Adria Matrix Plus 670 SC. It's not from a dealership so I'm not sure who to ask about this.
The previous owner thinks it had a weight upgrade but I can't find any evidence in the paperwork to support that.
To add to the confusion there's two weight plates on the engine bay, see below:
My question is. What is the payload of the motorhome?
As my husband has an older licence he'll be able to drive it for sure but mine is much newer (2001) so I'm not sure if I'm OK to drive it?
Any help much appreciated!!
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It looks to me like it has been 'up plated' to increase the user payload.
If that's correct you won't be able to drive with out a DVLA C1 category as the MGW Maximum Gross Weight) is now 3650 kg.
The numbers from top to bottom on each plate will be MGW. The most the unit can weigh when fully laden.
The next is the GTW (Gross Train Weight). This is what the combined weight of the unit and any trailer can weigh together.
The next two are the individual axle weights from front to rear. The front axle can take 1850 kg and the rear 2000 kg.
Hope this helps.
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I think it has been downplated. Are there any weights shown on your V5?
The first pic will be the one applied by the vehicle builder - Fiat - appertaining to the basic unconverted vehicle.
The second plate has been fixed by Adria after conversion and downplated to 3500kg. The downplating was probably done to make the van appeal to those limited on their licence to a max of 3500.
To calculate your payload, you need to establish the unladen weight of the converted vehicle (almost impossible unless it’s stated in the Adria paperwork) and subtract that figure from 3500. The most practical thing to do is to probably load the van in holiday trim and take it to a weighbridge to check you are not exceeding 3500kg. Check the axle loadings as well.
At 3500 you will be able to drive it on a 'newer' licence.
Perhaps someone else can confirm, or otherwise, my conclusions.
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Hi Zena, remove the aluminium plate. Problem solved.
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I'm a bit late to the party, having been away in my 6.4metre moho. The van in question is a whole metre longer than mine and a bit wider so is a substantial bulk. I'm sorry to rain on your parade but I would suggest it will be well nigh impossible to run that van at 3500Kg. I had mine weighed as I left for my recent trip with a full fuel and water tank load and came in at 20Kg under 3500Kg. Whilst you could travel with only a nominal amount of water, it leaves very little leeway for any kit.
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My Fiat based Benimar has similar plates, as said previously the first is a Fiat plate 3650 Kg, the second is conversion brand plate..... mine also shows 3500 Kg.
I only have a 320 Kg payload but manage it well, initially weighing everything I put in van.... sad I know!
However, on weighing it twice at a weighbridge my unladen weight included, leisure battery, 2 x gas bottles + the Fiamma awning giving me more leeway than I expected as I initially deducted these from my payload....
I only travel with 20 litres of water onboard + 5 litres fresh in a container & fill up on arrival on site, any surplus when leaving is balanced by fuel used & I always empty grey waste.
You'll find a method that suits you.
Enjoy, hope this helps!
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