Members/non members heating awnings
We were staying on the North Yorkshire site at Whitby and our neighbours were heating their awning all day. No wonder the prices are going up on the Caravan Club sites.
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Were the people in the awning when the heating was on?
If so I personally have no problem they were just enjoying their holiday, would you comment if they sat inside and used their electricity there?
If they weren't in it then yes that is a different story.
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Irrespective of any moral or environmental issues, they weren't contravening any club rules and I suppose it’s up to each individual how they use the electricity which they've paid for in their all inclusive pitch fee.
I guess the club must be happy for folk to use awning heaters as, otherwise, they’d be banned.🤷🏻♂️
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Might one ask how you know they were heating their awning all day? It seems that the Club don't ban the use of heaters in awnings which I find a bit strange. They are always imploring us to save on electricity so allowing awning heater is somewhat counter intuitive? Just a personal thing but I don't really understand why people want to sit an awning which is cold enough to need heating when they would be much more comfortable in their van?
David
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Not sure of the logic of your post .where does the heat go .heat rises and with a flimsy fabric ? It basically then Heats the sky,
compared to if the heater were where they are expected to be used it would heat the fabric , of the building/LV
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JVB we've had this discussion before 'heat' does not rise, heated air rises. However the heat from radiant halogen heaters travels in straight lines and does not heat the air while it travels, it only heats the person or anything else able to absorb the energy.
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What did the warden say to the other 3 paying customers who were getting their electricity from the bollard when he tripped it!
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Good point and why was that warden acting in that way, I wonder🤔
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However, surely the clothes on the person will shed heat into the colder air against them, as will the metal and fabric of the chair they are sat in. That heat will rise upwards, with only a thin layer of fabric insulating it from the outside environment. Either way it is far less efficient than heating a well insulated RV. I agree it is currently within the rules but in my opinion, it shouldn’t be.
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Very minimal I would say as most energy would be absorbed by the person/object. A crude analogy would be like boiling water to 100C in a microwave, does the air get heated to anywhere near that temperature, or even slightly heated?
As an aside but one never hears about using AC units?
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What would he be doing in the awning?
Protecting others?
It's clearly past your bedtime, JV, and all you're doing is making the warden look stupid.
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Ah, so you didn't mean what you said. Try using the right words next time and we might understand you.
Actually, I'm not a drinker so your quip was a wasted effort.
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A 20kw heater?🤣🤣
Of course it's warm, it heats the body (only) and you feel the warmth which is the whole point.
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These kind of discussions always leave me a little sad. Surely the particular caravanner paid for that pitch on the understanding that he would be provided with 16amps of power. If he uses all 16amps, well, he paid for it didn't he? If he doesn't, the club is in profit. It's for him to manage his usage and as long as he doesn't trip the board then what harm?
I enjoy being on club sites because you know they will always be maintained to a good standard, but this kind of curtain twitching I think says more about the person making the observation than the person actually being observed.
And yes, I use a heater. And no, I've never exceeded the electricity I've paid for.
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I find this discussion a bit pointless because our van - and I assume there must be others with the same Truma blown air system - has the facility to divert all of the heat into the awning via a vent set in the awning side of the van. I could have that running all day and no one would be any the wiser.
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It is one of the sadder attitudes of some J🤷🏻♂️, it comes up often I think it comes under the ‘I don’t like it so you shouldn’t do it’ category. Some attempt to attack with the-‘save the planet’ argument then they tug a Caravan or drive a big Moho. I think the best thing to do is to just leave others to enjoy their break within the guidelines. Sad, very sad☹️
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I agree that members should be free to enjoy there break within the guide lines / rules without criticism. However, it does not stop one having an opinion on a matter, and part of a forums function is to give folk the ability to express and debate those views with others. Clearly tugging a caravan isn’t that environmentally friendly and neither is driving a MH. That should not stop us from looking for savings where possible. Such as driving it in a manner that returns good fuel efficiency, or perhaps sitting in a well insulated RV, rather than trying to heat the planet.
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As an analogy, you can travel up a 'down' escalator if you walk fast enough but you don't half expend a lot of energy. How many would do that?
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Each to their own but it does irritate me to see a radiant heater burning in an awning when people have gone out and I have seen it and think badly. I no longer have an awning having given mine away in 2012. I did on occasion use a fan heater but only at Christmas period and whilst I sat outside with a cigar and an Asbach brandy. As I would take a pack of 5 castella I doubt it an for more than a couple of hours a year
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No, not a new member and i know each outlet on a bollard has its own MCB, but you said the warden tripped the bollard, not an individual outlet on the bollard.
Perhaps it would help people if you made sure your statements were accurate.
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Halogen heaters give off both radiated, and convection heat,and irrespective off what kind of heater it is a energy a 2 KW halogen heater uses as much energy as any other 2KW heater
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I’m with you 100% SL everyone is entitled to an opinion👍🏻. Unfortunately some folk don’t like others choices & tend to berate in a most hypocritical way that can’t be good surely. You must have noticed how some(particularly new posters) are oftentimes jumped on because of their views🤷🏻♂️. It can be way more respectful to keep it friendly than to guilt trip-to save you time I have no intention of naming & shaming it would then make me a hypocrite too. Just a thought🙂
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