Serviced pitch

gillianmary
gillianmary Forum Participant Posts: 8
edited July 2021 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

Hope someone out there can help.  We are staying at at Brighton in a couple of weeks and, for the first time, are using a serviced pitch as it was the only type of pitch available at the time of booking.  We are just wondering exactly what equipment we shall need  for water and waste.  Please help if possible.   Gill

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  • SteveL
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    edited July 2021 #2

    You don’t necessarily need anything it will just be a bit quicker filling and emptying. However, if you are going to use them in future it may be worth investing. You can get a float device that fits in the aquaroll and keeps it half full, for your pump to draw from. You will require some food grade hose to link this to the tap. The CC now recommend 25 metres of this, however in most cases 10 are sufficient  and almost always 15 metres is enough. 
    You will also require some waste pipe. You can use the coiled stuff or rigid. If the coiled it’s worth getting  two or three of lengths totalling 8 / 10 metres that you can join together if required. Or you could use thiscollapz stuff that I bought to use when we site our MH on a service pitch.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited July 2021 #3

    As Steve says, also a range of garden type hose connectors to connect the pipe to the tap which will be usually at the bollard for the EHU.

    You can continue to use your wastemaster but you can buy some (cheap) waste pipes to take your waste water straight to the drain, a couple of meters should be enough though check what diameter outlet your caravan has as it will simply just push into it. 

    Post edit: Sorry Steve, did you add the bit about waste pipes? I wouldn't have posted otherwise.

  • SteveL
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    edited July 2021 #4

    As it’s easy to join lengths of hose / waste at a later date if you decide to make use of them again. It might be worth giving the site a ring and asking what lengths of each you will require for their service pitches. It does vary a fair bit from site to site. Some have one bollard between two pitches with two taps / waste inlets. Others one on each pitch. Checking would mean you could buy the minimum at this stage. Even if you decide not to fork out for the aquaroll float device at this stage. A length of hose will mean the aquaroll can be quickly topped up without moving it. It’s how we started with our use of them, just a hose and a length of waste.

  • Wherenext
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    edited July 2021 #5

    You definitely are not obligated to buy or use any kit. However, you may find you like using these pitches and will go out and buy yourself the equipment needed.

    I don't know if you use CLs at all but we have found an increase in the number of CLs that, if not supplying a full service pitch, will or may have an "enhanced pitch" which will usually mean you will have access to a water pipe for your own use. If you do use CLs you will know some owners allow you to run the waste water into a hedge and you may therefore need slightly more/longer length of waste pipe than on a club site.

     

  • gillianmary
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    edited July 2021 #6

    Thanks to every one for this info.

  • HarryTheHymer
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    edited July 2021 #7

    ‘…If you do use CLs you will know some owners allow you to run the waste water into a hedge …’

     

    another reason to avoid  them.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited July 2021 #8

     ... another reason to avoid  them.

    I don't mind you avoiding them as it leaves them free for me but ... Why? Grey water is only water with a bit of soap & fat in it

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited July 2021 #9

    Remember what we were told to do with dish water and bath water back in the drought years? Yes, use it to water the garden plants.

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited July 2021 #10

    Being on a meter-it still makes sense👍🏻😊

  • richardandros
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    edited July 2021 #11

    Plus, some CL owners don't want their septic tanks filled up with waste water - which they have to pay for, to be emptied - for it to end up where??

    Some other tips for the future.  I have about 15m of food grade hose.  An 8m length which covers most eventualities, plus a 5m and a 2m with connectors to give you that flexibility in connections depending how far away from the tap you are.

    Can thoroughly recommend the Colapz waste pipe system - I have 8m which live in the van permanently and hardly takes up any room in its own storage bag. It is expensive, however.

    A lot of CLs will have a tap shared between two or three pitches and I carry a four-way tap splitter (about £15) which allows me to plumb into the water and others to do the same if they want to - or to use it as a conventional tap.

     

     

  • HarryTheHymer
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    edited July 2021 #12

    You stick to cow pats, septic tanks and smelly hedges, I’ll stick to something with some basic civilised facilities.

  • SteveL
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    edited July 2021 #13

    We have not stayed at any yet. However, I believe an increasing number of CL’s have service pitches and basic, or not so basic facilities.

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  • brue
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    edited July 2021 #15

    Quite a few CLs offer individual water points so it's good to have the equipment on board. Useful info.

    BB we should have been on a THS last week but Covid isolation prevented our trip. frown

    We've also been on serviced pitches on overnight stops, it's handy even if you don't hook up to the supply.

    Hope the OP enjoys having everything to hand. smile

  • richardandros
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    edited July 2021 #16

    Steve - our favourite CS is just over an hour away from home.  2 acres of mown grass, water points at almost every pitch, in an orchard with a stream running along the bottom of it, covered washing up sink and a toilet/shower block that a visitor of ours described as "better than a lot of hotels I have stayed in". Beautifully peaceful and tranquil - and all for £18 per night!

    There are some real gems out theresmile

  • flatcoat
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    edited July 2021 #17

    If you like serviced pitches then i would invest in rigid waste pipes. The grey flexible just flops on the ground and if the waste gully is on a high point will not drain - water doesn’t flow uphill….. 

    RandRos, is that a CS or CL site? Sounds rather nice! 

  • JohnM20
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    edited July 2021 #18

    How essential is food grade hose considered to be?

    If water is not being drunk from the aquaroll supply and at worst a mouth rinse after teeth cleaning, does it really matter. The length of time water is in the supply hose is, I'm sure, not long enough for any 'nasties' in the plastic to leach out in sufficient quantities to cause any harm.  I've had a couple of instances recently when the standard length of flat food grade hose hasn't been long enough and so resorted to a fairly short extension of normal 'garden' hose. to achieve the required length.

  • KeefySher
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  • SteveL
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    edited July 2021 #20

    I certainly know when we started it was not a good choice. We just used a length of green garden hose. Whilst we don’t drink water straight from the tap, we do boil it. Especially when the hose had been in the sun the water (particularly tea) had a distinct plasticky taste.☹️

  • EmilysDad
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    edited July 2021 #21

    I could answer with a single word ... but I'd get banned! 

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited July 2021 #22

    Do you honestly think that everyone who use the toilet facilities, on club or commercial sites, wash their hands thoroughly on leaving, where they touch the doors and handles etc? Have you ever seen the state that some of the cubicles are left in? At least on a CL, using our own facilities we know who has used them!

  • DSB
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    edited July 2021 #23

    What we use:

    For waste water you will need a long convoluted hose or pipe to reach from your caravan to the waste drain.  As we frequently use serviced pitches we invested in these: https://colapz.co.uk/collections/flexi-waste-pipes/products/flexi-waste-pipe-kit-8-pipes.  They are certainly not cheap, but takes the guess work out of how much waste hose to take with you.  As they are in metre sections, you just use as many as it takes to reach from the caravan to the drain.  You will only need to buy them once..

    For fresh water, you will need to add a valve (like a toilet ball-cock valve) to the centre of your aquaroll, and some food grade hose to reach from the pitch tap to your aquaroll.  Put the pump into the aquaroll in the normal way.  As water is taken from the aquaroll, the ball-cock valve drops and allows water back into the aquaroll via the hose which is connected to the tap.  Kits are available to buy:  https://www.aquaroll.com/aquaroll-mains-adaptor.html (or similar).  We use a much smaller version produced by Collapz, called a FreshMini  (https://colapz.co.uk/collections/water-containers/products/fresh-mini-starter-kit).  The FreshMini is also available with the food grade hose, but we prefer to use a food grade flat hose.  We take 3 x 5m lengths and use as few as is necessary to connect to the FreshMini.

    Hope this helps.

    David

  • richardandros
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    edited August 2021 #24

     Flatcoat - it's a CS - Thornthorpe Camping and Equestrian Centre, about 3 miles south of Malton. Andrew and Tracey that run it are the loveliest of people and have become very good friends - we go there at least twice a year, being only just over an hour from home. Indeed, we are due to go back later this month. It closes in October, however, for the winter - and I know he is very busy at the moment - but worth a phone call plus they now have on-line booking. It is adults only.

    Re the rigid waste pipe - I've tried that - but not as convenient re storage as the Colapz system which stays in the van all the time 'just in case'. I also bought the special pegs so that you can adjust the 'fall' to make sure what you are describing doesn't happen.

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  • JVB66
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    edited August 2021 #26

    I agree and would really think about paying the extra£4.00+per day just to not carry

     a couple of watering cans every couple of days and empty my waste every three days, I go to the.dustbins,   when cc facilities are normally of such high standards of cleanliness,

    But it must be a growing trend as when this site is refurbished this winter?  many serviced pitches are to be installed and the site extended to also incorporate  super pitches, ,and some complain about site feessurprised

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  • EasyT
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    edited August 2021 #29

    Whilst it can be nice to have water an drain at pitch it is for me a waste of time. I fill once in 5 days or longer and empty once. £20 seems a lot for a fill.

    I have never queued for a shower except waiting outside an individual washroom on one occasion on a commercial site.

  • SteveL
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    edited August 2021 #30

    Well we would and do pay if they are available. We mainly use our own facilities at the moment, and are likely to do so for the foreseeable future. Apart from the convenience of being to top up without moving the van or carrying water cans full from the service point, we just pass the queue at the MHSP by, with a nice empty tank, as we leave. Given how difficult they are to get I would imagine the majority are using them through choice and it always includes a large number of MH’s. So they are certainly not just for caravaners. At some sites, if you are arriving late, they also guarantee you a nice level pitch.

    Just accept that everyone is different. I don’t find anything strange in folk not wanting to use one and saving some money. Also means there’s more chance of us getting one.😀

  • brue
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    edited August 2021 #31

    I'm with you on that one Steve. I read how much you'd enjoyed a service pitch at Hawes, so booked the same and it was worth every penny! smile