Is This Selfish Queue Jumping?

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  • brue
    brue Forum Participant Posts: 21,176 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    edited January 2021 #62

    There are 40000 over 80s still waiting in the SW! I've emailed our MP about the booking loophole. I can imagine chaos if something isn't sorted quickly and some will die due to other's greed.

  • JVB66
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    edited January 2021 #63

    Vaccines are administered, in our area anyway, via  timed arrivals ,process not alphabetically,  we were ticked off the list when we handed over our filled in by us consent form ,i did notice that the paper the "admin lady"had some ticks missing? so could be where "extra"vacines also come from with "non arrivals?"to their appointments, as doctors surgeries constantly have problems with 

  • brue
    brue Forum Participant Posts: 21,176 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    edited January 2021 #64

    JVB, if all those that could decided to use the NHS booking loophole the system will descend into chaos and those with the greatest need could lose their lives.

    At present anyone who wants to can book an appointment on line without any form of invite (even though it is stated they must have a letter or call) jump the queue ahead of all those who are patiently waiting. Four of my neighbours have done this, two are under 70, they filled up vacant appointments of their own choosing, nothing to do with supplies , they lined up in a supermarket car park and "blagged" their way through. undecided

    I hope fines are introduced swiftly or the web site is tightened up.

  • LLM
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    edited January 2021 #65

    Have you read the EU/ AZ contract?  I went through the full 42 pages at pace this PM.  There is a mass of "sensitive" script that has been redacted which could be important in discussions but I think AZ are on slightly shaky ground and it will need our Government to step in to prevent vaccine produced in the UK being shipped over the channel.  

  • JVB66
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    edited January 2021 #66

    Which proves the attitude that seems to be getting more prevalent in society , of which I was advised by one of my old bosses he said "my boy if you want to get on these days Bulls***t and Bluff ,goes a long way as people will back down in case you are right"surprised

    1. Ps these days it has mostly been overtaken by  CVs and over worked HR departmentswink
  • LLM
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    edited January 2021 #67

    I'm not sure that is entirely accurate Brue.

    As I understand the it the system is in three parts.

    GP surgeries are contacting their patients and booking them into surgeries or local GP run hubs.

    The national NHS systems is contacting everyone by letter.  If you get a letter you can then phone in or go on line to get an appointment at a mass vac centre, some big others less so.  These include places being run by the likes of Pharmacy4U at Morrisons.  To book with all of these you MUST have the details on your letter.  

    The third system which I believe is the one being abused is the NHS staff process.  Staff have been given a site that does not need much info as they can all have the jab regardless of age, etc.  Unfortunately this access has been shared with outsiders.

    I hope that makes sense.  If you tell me roughly where you are I may be able to tell you where things are.  

     

     

  • moulesy
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    edited January 2021 #68

    Hope you have more success than me brue! I emailed our MP over a week ago to ask why, in a major population centre in Wiltshire, vaccines were only being offered 2 days a week. Still waiting (patiently) for any sort of reply! frown

  • KjellNN
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    edited January 2021 #69

    I have not heard anything from our GP either TG, and I am in the 75+ group.

    If still nothing by Wednesday when OH, who is in the 70-75 group, has an appointment for her vaccination at the local hub,  she will be asking questions as to why not, and whether I can get mine there along with her.

  • brue
    brue Forum Participant Posts: 21,176 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    edited January 2021 #70

    No the booking loophole is available to all who want to use it. I'm not giving out further details. I'll be interested if I get a reply from our MP who has, according to his web site certain priorities, but I live in hope that action will be taken as the Government are aware of the problem.

    Sadly my info concurs with the OPs at the top of the page.

  • LLM
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    edited January 2021 #71

    You made me have a look outside of what I explained and I found another really worrying flaw.  Like you I won't say what but it is definitely very wrong.   

  • Cornersteady
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    edited January 2021 #72

    I wondered who would spot that first Wilson

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited January 2021 #73

    It wasn’t Wilson it was meeeeeee👍🏻😊

  • JillwithaJay
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    edited January 2021 #74

    We've got our letters this morning and booked both first and second doses online at our nearest vaccination centre rather than wait for the GP contact.  First jab tomorrow evening. smile

  • cyberyacht
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    edited January 2021 #75

    Had No.1 this morning. Given my little card but no date for No.2. Is the vaccine roll-out about to become constipated in the absence of No.2's?

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited January 2021 #76

    My Mum hasn’t had her date for second jab. She had her first before Christmas, just hoping things don’t go pear shaped, but have to say our local NHS has been very well organised. OH got a ping on his phone, within a minute he had a jab slot booked half a mile away. Our GP surgery is very well organised, lots of the practices are working together, making best use of technology and resources.

  • InaD
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    edited January 2021 #77

    Brue, I too heard about this a few days ago and was interested to read the thread on here.  Like you, I have also written to our MP.  My OH at 71 is still waiting, I'm under 70, so I'm not in any of the current groups, but this loophole should be stopped ASAP.