Aldi torque wrench

clarinetman
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edited December 2020 in Parts & Accessories #1

Hi for anyone wanting to invest in a torque wrench, Aldi have a special offer at £16.99 looks good to me and you might think you don’t need one but you do believe me.

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  • ADP1963
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    edited January 2021 #2

    I have been a Caravan owner and user since 1978 and never needed to use the Torque Wrench which travels in the boot of my car. Perhaps I have been very fortunate, but I bet many like me will not see the need for one as expressed.  

  • TomL
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    edited January 2021 #3

    Does this mean that you've never thought it sensible and appropriate to check the torque settings on your caravan and car wheels - even after the wheels haved been off for servicing, tyre changes?

  • davetommo
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    edited January 2021 #4

    When you have your caravan serviced the wheels are taken off to check the brakes. Where I have mine serviced they check the wheel nut torque settings while you watch. On the service sheet they advise that you re check the torque setting after 50 miles.

  • TomL
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    edited January 2021 #5

    And at car servicing and change of tyres.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited January 2021 #6

    But there are many here that obsess over wheel bolt/nut torque ... I admit that I don't use my torque wrenches for either car or caravan but I've yet to lose a wheel. 😉

  • LLM
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    edited January 2021 #7

    I often wonder if many understand what a torque wrench is for and how to use it, including so called mechanics / technicians undecidedsmile.  

  • EmilysDad
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    edited January 2021 #8

     ... and how good/accurate is a cheapo torque wrench from Aldi/Lidl going to be? 😉

  • LLM
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    edited January 2021 #9

    My experience of Aldi and especially Lidl tools is they are very good quality; only one item has been less than satisfactory.  

  • EmilysDad
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    edited January 2021 #10

    You're not going to get a Norbar or Teng torque wrench for 17 quid 😉you get what you pay for in life 👍

  • LLM
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    edited January 2021 #11

    True, and I have what I consider to be a mid quality Draper but I really only use it infrequently. Likewise I would expect anyone purchasing inexpensively from Aldi to use the product just occasionally for which it should be fine.

  • davetommo
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    edited January 2021 #12

    Many and I mean many years go when I used to drive an HGV if we got a puncture we would change our own wheel as in those days we carried a spare. When we tightened up the wheel nuts we would put the extension bar on the wheel brace and jump on it for all we was worth, as we didn’t want the wheel coming off. Lots of artic trailers would when doing a tight turn snap their wheel studs, this would happen because the wheel on the forward axle scrubs under. After many years and much research it was blamed on the driver over tightening. 

     

     

  • EmilysDad
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    edited January 2021 #13

    cars' wheels don't scrub though, they might a little on a twin axle caravan or the twin axle of a MH  .... and HGV wheels tend to be a little bigger than those on a car or caravan 😉

  • davetommo
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    edited January 2021 #14

    The point I was making was the over tightening which stretches the studs and therefore weakening them.

  • TomL
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    edited January 2021 #15

    All the more reason to use a torque wrench at the correct setting.

  • davetommo
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    edited January 2021 #16

    Problem with the correct setting is this. Are the settings accurate. I would think that the wrench in a workshop would have to have an annual check to make sure that it is accurate. How often will one in your car boot get checked? 

  • ADP1963
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    edited January 2021 #17

    TomL  What it means is that I don't pay for a job and then do it myself !

    As I said perhaps I am lucky, but perhaps there is not the need for a Torque Wrench with the need as the poster implied. If I was not aware of the consequences of wheel nuts coming loose, or wheel change I would not as I said carry one in the boot of my car. But I don't see it any more important than any other part of my outfit that is serviced regular and properly maintained to my level of expectation and satisfaction.

  • Amesford
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    edited January 2021 #18

    I would get one, I check out caravan wheel nuts before a journey, friends of ours picked up their brand new caravan drove a few hundred yards up the road and a wheel came off evidently tyre bands had been fitted by a sub contractor at the dealers and the wheel torque had not been checked. It is so important that the mobile engineer who services our van asks us to watch him as he torque's the wheel nuts and get us to sign to witness he has done so 

  • EmilysDad
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    edited January 2021 #19

    and do you check the settings on his torque wrench and do you know what it should be set to? I've had ATS/Kwik Fit show me that the wheels were torqued up with a wrench after he'd used a windy gun. I pointed out to him that the wrench clicked without the nut/bolt moving at all .... it went way way over his head that the gun had tightened the nuts/bolts to silly lb/ft ... the wrench did nothing.

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  • Amesford
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    edited January 2021 #21

    The simple answer is yes, I know the settings for my van wheels that's why there is a rating plate on all caravans  and he does show us his torque wrench settings also its recommended that the nuts are backed off  (loosened) before finally tightening with the torque wrench 

  • EmilysDad
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    edited January 2021 #22

    so when you check the nuts/bolts are tight, do you back them off first? .... sounds like going round & round & round in circles 🤣

  • Amesford
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    edited January 2021 #23

     Yes I found it was funny when i had a new tyre fitted on my mini years ago after a while when i was going slow there was a rattle coming from the front wheel on removing the hub cap two broken wheel studs fell out 

  • hitchglitch
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    edited January 2021 #24

    Bailey had a problem with the Unicorn range some years back and recommended checking torque on wheel nuts before every trip. I bought a Draper and haven’t used it since switching to a motorhome. One problem is that they are supposed to be periodically recalibrated but that doesn’t sound very practical.

  • geoffeales
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    edited January 2021 #25

    many years ago I was an apprentice mechanic. I remember the first time being sent to get a "talk" wrench I thought they were kidding me, like going to the stores for a long weight or a left-handed screwdriver. hitchglitch is quite right, the "professional" wrenches are supposed to be recalibrated at least once a year as the internal springs stretch and they become inaccurate. I can't imagine anything under £50 being up to much, probably just as well follow the technical advice of my old foreman, get a long bar and tighten to FT!

  • clarinetman
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    edited January 2021 #26

    Sorry not been back to my discussion but had some issues, all the reply’s are great and show a wide variety of opinions. The comments on recalibration is correct in the work place I was told by a motor engineer though that as long as you take the pressure off after use the wrench with the slight use privately would be fine without annual recalibration.

    One trick I use is when the service engineer sets it I follow with my wrench this gives a reasonable check my wrench is as accurate as the engineers.( I have my caravans serviced on drive at home so always there)

    All wheel nuts should be checked after a few mile following a service which removes the wheels.

    Thank all for contributing it been interesting.

     

  • EmilysDad
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    edited January 2021 #27

     ... probably just as well follow the technical advice of my old foreman, get a long bar and tighten to FT!

    or ... as a bloke I used to work with said 'tighten till you fart, then another 1/4 turn' 😂

  • jennyc
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    edited March 2023 #28

    Knowing someone who had a wheel come off their car within a week of buying new tyres, has heightened our concerns over torques. So we do have a torque wrench and it’s used to confirm that wheel nuts are correctly torqued after they’ve been removed for any reason. The manufacturers show correct settings on most data plates, ditto tyre pressures. Towball bolts also require specific tightening.

    Very many mechanics will tell you that their experience has calibrated their right arm to know when the correct torque has been applied. It’s not a reassurance which I’d rely on if my life depended on it, which in a way it does. I suspect too, that particularly with thick bolts and heavy ratings, over tightening is as much of a problem as the reverse. Precision engineers will lubricate threads so as too eliminate any friction which would detract from torque wrench tightening.

    As with many things, extreme examples may illustrate points more clearly. We have a low range torque wrench which we use 100% for bicycle maintenance, where over-tightening thin bolts creates a real risk of subsequent failure. Under tightening too.

    As for quality and accuracy, I’m not sure that super accuracy is essential for checking wheel nuts. Given that many Aldi/ Lidl tools can be found outside their stores at several times the price, it’s not altogether sensible to dismiss their offerings as too cheap to be any good.