Awning rules

wedgy
wedgy Club Member Posts: 429 ✭✭✭
edited September 2020 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

We have visited 5 different sites since reopening and at every one seen mostly motorhomes on non awning pitches using roll out awnings. Have not yet seen any with sides fitted so maybe people think this is ok. I am not opposed to this practice as I think the latest pitch designations are in many cases OTT. What I want to know is if this practice has been "allowed" and the site managers have been told to turn a blind eye,if so I will look at joining this set when we can't get an awning pitch but would use a roll out awning.

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  • Tinwheeler
    Tinwheeler Forum Participant Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭
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    edited September 2020 #2

    Roll out canopies on MHs are allowed on non-awning pitches providing the space requirements are maintained. Sometimes they may only be able to be partially unrolled and sometimes wardens ask for them to be retracted at night.

    Don't forget that MHs do not often have cars on pitch which is why they often have room for the canopy.

    There's no need to feel you're missing out or that wardens are turning a blind eye.

  • brue
    brue Forum Participant Posts: 21,176 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    edited September 2020 #3

    Wedgy. There's information out there about the awnig rules on non-awning pitches, it's allowed on some as long as the firebreak is maintained but only awnings which can be rolled in and adjusted to fit the requirements.

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2020 #4

    As posted by others motor caravans (without any add vehicles) can on some non awning pitches ,use their wind out awnings,while the vehicle is occupied with permission of the site staff

  • JillwithaJay
    JillwithaJay Club Member Posts: 2,485 ✭✭
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    edited September 2020 #5

    Recently published from HO.

     

     

  • wedgy
    wedgy Club Member Posts: 429 ✭✭✭
    edited September 2020 #6

    If space requirements can be met I wonder why it's a non awning pitch. 

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2020 #7

    Some pitches that are now non awning were before the guidelines for fire regs were ammended a few years ago awning pitches so it may be with these days of litigation lawyer's .the clubs and some commercial companies are looking to not get court surprised

  • wedgy
    wedgy Club Member Posts: 429 ✭✭✭
    edited September 2020 #8

    I don't think guidelines were changed,I believe the club employed a new H&S manager?

  • eurortraveller
    eurortraveller Club Member Posts: 6,829 ✭✭✭
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    edited September 2020 #9

    Thank you Jill for your clear print out of the rules about 3 metre spacing, but to be frank I wouldn't go to a campsite where there is another caravan or Motorhome or awning as close as that. It would be like having neighbours parked at the other end of my sitting room at home. Fire officers may be satisfied with a 3 metre gap but I want much more space than that. It's a long time since I went to a Club site and I hadn't realised outfits were so close together these days. Thank you for reminding me. 

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2020 #11

    They did change  as it is not just the cc who have altered some previous awning pitches 

    unless the elf and safetyman from cc was moon lighting

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2020 #12

    We have a wind out awning and have used it on a new non awning pitch at refurbished Tewksbury site but  wound in at night and when not with the c/van car was parked to the rear of c/van

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited September 2020 #14

    We solved all the hassle by mainly using CLs. Folks are a lot less judgemental and obsessed by what others do on CLs......😂

  • wedgy
    wedgy Club Member Posts: 429 ✭✭✭
    edited September 2020 #15

    Wanting to clarify the site rules is not judgemental or obsessional.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited September 2020 #16

    I didn’t think TDA was pointing the finger at anyone in particular...🤷🏻‍♂️

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited September 2020 #17

    Indeed, not at you personally Wedgy. 😁It’s just that a lot of questions are often asked around what folks do and don’t do on Club Sites.

  • chasncath
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    edited September 2020 #18

    Today we arrived at Great Yarmouth Racecourse site. ( we should have been by Lake Annecy but ...) and the sun was so hot that we had to roll out our Fiamma 'canopy' and attach our sun blind! We're on a white post pitch and so have rolled it all up and in for the night. innocent

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2020 #19

    We also would if we were wanting a Good nights sleep when staying o  the East coast and the wind blowing off the dunes wink

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited September 2020 #20

    White peg - that’s with awning so you'll not cause upset there, CnC. 😄

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2020 #21

    I think that was why he posted it wink

  • chasncath
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    edited September 2020 #22

    Doh! Just looked at the site plan and yes, white is awning. It's just the I'm getting on a bit you know; however, as jvb66 points out, leaving a fiamma out overnight is seldom a good idea if troubled by wind.embarassed

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited September 2020 #23

    Try laying off the baked beans👍🏻

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2020 #24

    Not just moves the van outside ,and the older we are the more it becomes a problem?embarassed

  • mickysf
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    edited September 2020 #25

    Often, it's not the size of the gravelled area but the width of that grass finger in between pitches which determines if it's a blue or white peg pitch. I've seen grass fingers in excess of three yards wide and others as little as a foot.

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  • JVB66
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    edited September 2020 #27

    It is not the tie downs that make for a "quiet night"when windy it is the canvas banging on the frame at times

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  • mickysf
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    edited September 2020 #29

    Taken your hearing aids out David? Not only the flapping but the increased rocking can keep me awake. Only if clement weather is forecast overnight does mine remain out! 

  • Rob2CathDavies
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    edited September 2020 #30

    Hi, it is ten years since we were wardens and we were advised that an awning pitch could accommodate  3 things in 8 metres

    caravan/motorhome

    car

    awning 

    a non awning pitch could accommodate 2 things in 5 metres

    caravan/motorhome

    car OR awning of 2 metres or less.


    It makes sense, leaving a safe distance of at least 3 metres. 

    But those rules may have been superseded, and the non awning pitch name is misleading, perhaps they should be called 3 element pitch or two element pitch?

     

     

  • DavidKlyne
    DavidKlyne Club Member Posts: 13,859 ✭✭✭
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    edited September 2020 #31

    I think you have to be careful what you consider an awning. To me an awning is an enclosed unit designed to be up for the length of your stay. These are clearly not allowed on a non awning pitch.  A roll out canopy is just that a canopy which can be retracted in minutes. 

    It might make things clearer if the Club actually insisted that canopies were retracted at night.  

    David