Air awnings

Tiggey
Tiggey Forum Participant Posts: 1
edited August 2020 in Parts & Accessories #1

We would like to purchase an air awning for our caravan (Eldis Chatsworth 636 2016 model). We have been comparing the Kampa Club Air All Season awning with the Suncamp Airvolution Icon Air and had all but decided to purchase the Kampa air awning.

However one last check reading the reviews has thrown a spanner in the works as the reviews we have read regarding Kampa are rather off-putting with regards to leaking roofs and exploding poles! The Suncamp appears to have more positive reviews.

We would welcome your opinions on the above two awnings and appreciate your guidance.

 Tiggey

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  • KeithL
    KeithL Forum Participant Posts: 114
    edited August 2020 #2

    No experience of the Suncamp I'm afraid but do have a Kampa Rally Pro which is brilliant.

    Not had any problems with leaking roofs, apart from the normal drips from stitching first time out until it seals itself which is normal for all awnings. No exploding poles so far though I've seen, and heard, a few going on other makes.

    Make sure the Suncamp can be filled from a single valve like the Kampa. Much easier than faffing about filling individual poles as seen on some makes of air awning.

  • Simon100
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    edited August 2020 #3

    Have you looked at Vango? They have a good reputation.

  • lornalou1
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    edited August 2020 #4

    just a point, check the weights of each as the Kampa I had was bl**dy heavy. 

  • EmilysDad
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    edited August 2020 #5

    aren't they multiple inflation points? If so ... I'd find that a PITA having to inflate umpteen bits of awning.

  • ggregu
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    edited August 2020 #6

    Have a look at my post on page 2 of this thread!

    Although mine isn’t an All Season (wasn’t available in 2017) I would still expect it to last longer than this.

    Apart from the leaking issues I had 2 air poles burst last year and before anyone asks, they were blown up to the recommended pressure.

    If I had the choice again, I wouldn’t buy Kampa.

  • richardandros
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    edited August 2020 #7

    We have both a Kampa Air 390 Grande and a Sunncamp Air 390. This is our third Kampa awning and we have never had a problem with leaks. Both are quality awnings commensurate with their price. The Kampa was about £1000, whereas the Sunncamp was £350. You get what you pay for! Kampa much heavier than the lightweight SC but the Kampa is much more versatile in terms of opening panels etc. Sunncamp much easier to dry if it has to be packed away wet. 
    If you over inflate any air awning there is a danger of the tubes going pop in hot weather- so stick to the recommended pressure and you will be OK.

    The single inflation point is a bonus with the Kampa but in all honesty, it’s not a big issue having to also inflate the three roof poles on the SC - takes a few seconds with an electric pump.

    Pays your money and takes your choice!

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited August 2020 #8

    +1, I find the more inflation points the less chance of the whole structure failing. With one inflation point a leak renders the lot unusable. With a battery inflator(Lidl) it’s a breeze👍🏻

  • jennyc
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    edited August 2020 #9

    Kampa single inflation point air awnings aren’t rendered unusable if there’s a leak, because each tube can be isolated with valves at their ends.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited August 2020 #10

    You've obviously never stepped foot inside a Kampa inflatable awning then .... the isolation valves at each end of the various tubes stare you in the face.

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited August 2020 #11

    Thankyou👍🏻. My experience has obviously come from the erect to the flaccid with one small puncture awnings.

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited August 2020 #12

    Thankyou👍🏻, see my post on the previous page.

  • Metheven
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    edited August 2020 #13

    Neither have I, so with this awning and after inflating do they advise you to go around and isolate each tube end until time to pack away? The erecting videos doesn't show you do.

  • S92Driver
    S92Driver Forum Participant Posts: 6
    edited August 2020 #14

    As said earlier, be mindful of the recommended inflation pressure. I had a Kampa 390 and filled it to the recommended pressure whilst the ambient temerature was cool. The day after inflation the ambient temerature more than doubled and caused an over pressure in the system and one of the bladders went with a big bang. With no over pressure dump valve fitted this will always be a problem, the black outer material absorbing the suns energy and heating up doesn't help either.

    One more point raised earlier in the thread regarding the isolation valves. They are an excellent tool to troubleshoot a slow leak in any of the bladders. To find a leak all the valves are closed after normal inflation so that only the bladder with a leak will deflate identifying it quickly.

    I wouldn't close the isolation valves for any other reason other than fault finding.

  • S92Driver
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    edited August 2020 #15

    P.S Kampa customer care were fantastic, they replaced the whole awning rather than repairing it.

     

    J

  • Metheven
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    edited August 2020 #16

    I wouldn't close the isolation valves for any other reason other than fault finding.

    So if the isolation valves are not closed off in normal use and a leak occurred during the night or when out for the day, you could wake up to or return to a completely collapsed awning onto everything inside.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited August 2020 #17

    I suppose you could in theory  .... but in practice that has never happened to me. wink

  • jennyc
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    edited September 2020 #18

    Such would be the case if one tube were punctured by a meteorite, or a shard of ice from an aeroplane wing, maybe a crashed drone. But from a realistic risk standpoint, you would need to be amazingly unlucky to find that your correctly erected and inflated has collapsed. If I felt so unlucky, I’d probably never leave the house - then again most accidents occur at home!

  • Pageantpete07
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    edited September 2020 #19

    We have had 2 Kampa air awnings and have had no problems at all with either of them,we have currently a Kampa  Pro 390  and yes i would agree it is quite heavy but it is a quality awning and i would certainly recommend it ,

  • BrianJosie
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    edited September 2020 #20

    Hi there we are on our 2nd Kampa Air Pro awning and no problems with either ,great bit of kit,as has been said a little on the heavy side but that’s tha quality of the product.Can highly recommend.

    Brian. & Jo

  • MDD10
    MDD10 Forum Participant Posts: 335
    edited September 2020 #21

    I spent a year thinking about going for an air awning and sought advice here where was positive.  In the end I got a fantastic deal on the Kampa Club Air pro 390 during lockdown from Camping and General online for £900!  https://www.practicalcaravan.com/reviews/kampa-club-air-pro-390-plus

    First use we had heavy rain and about 3 leaks.  Relaxed as knew the stitching had to swell. Second time out...torrential rain minor leak on one corner but that has stopped and no issues

    Delighted with it.  Easy to pump with the standard pump supplied.  However, very heavy but I can cope and I’m lazy as I dont unzip the sides. 

  • Tirril
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    edited September 2020 #22

    I have a Kampa air pro awning and initial there was a slight leak on the roof seams which I treated with an aerosol water proofer and have not had any further problems. I also have the Kampa electric air pump on which you can set the max pressure. I find that just 5lbs psi, which is half the suggested amount, gives firm enough pressure and gives me a wide safety margin and consequently I have not had any burst tubes in 2 years since new.