Aires in the UK
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Ahhh, see that now changes the message👍🏻😊
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That must also be the years of the "onion jonnies"on their bicycles,
There are a few real gypsy families around who still know how to look after the area they pitch up at
Many these days who like to thought of as gypsies are nothing of the sort and just note the reg numbers on vehicles of quite a few
Those who hold a showmans vehicle licence are still normally ok
Problems arise when as in all societies there are those who get them all "tarred with the same brush"
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There’s plenty of anti-social behaviour in both countries whether it’s graffiti, vandalism, littering or petty crime. Better in some places, worse in others. It’s just that as tourists we tend to spend our time in nicer places with less incidence. The same would apply in the UK. Don’t knock your own country unfairly. Public toilets in just about any rest area on major routes in France and Spain are disgusting.
Agree with this post
My thoughts when I 1st read the OP’s post- Could many of the ‘campaigners’ be people who usually spend time away possibly for fairly long winter breaks elsewhere on sites and/or at club rallies plus Aire type facilities also maybe THS’s/CL’s/Rallies etc here and that they may wish to have a less expensive way of spending time away in the UK in the form of Aire type facilities. Could this campaign have been instigated by Covid/travel/insurance restrictions if so then IMHO we as country (LA’s included) have many more important things to spend money on.
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Glad when we did "over there" thirty to forty odd years ago it was not as crowded, thats when it was real caravan holidays
30 or 40 years ago, we were tenting, rather than caravaning round Europe. There were certainly crowded sites even then, particularly in popular cities like Rome and a Paris, plus many close to sea beaches and round the lakes in Italy. However, just like now it was possible to get away from the crowds, by moving a few miles inland and keeping away from the ultra touristy spots.
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You must have been to diferent places in the UK than we have, it was not as crowded on sites despite what your protestations are ,for a start there were far fewer LVs arround,and there was always spaces even popular sites at peak times , that are now difficult to get a pitch, as posted on here so many times about "unable to tour now"
I would think the longtstay site you tend to use now (off peak) you would find "crowded" at peak times,
In the past as us when our children were at school , sites were busy"crowded" when we could take our holidays both here and "over there"
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I don't know about crowded David. 25 years ago on a 7 week holiday with my wife and daughter we would have used 15 sites. On most sites I was able to hitch up the caravan on the last night ready for an easy getaway and yes the sun did shine from early April, if not earlier, until the end of August.
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Surely you should have put in your opinion AD. We have only been members 16 years. Personally I have always thought them middle of the road on price.
As to crowded. Yes many do seem crowded when full with lots of families. However, a lot of those we stopped on over there with our kids, in peak times, seemed equally so. Now we are going back out of season, even to some of the same sites, they seem much roomier. Same with the CC usually totally different places out of peak.
Unfortunately due to staycations September could well emulate peak, although without the added kids, as long as the schools open.
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Looks nice, with the grass pitches be it they are at least six metres apart and with the foliage probably in or near peak time ,but better ombiance with nice greenery that some we have seen "over there"at the about same time of year except it would be mud by then, but then camera angles can hide so much
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I don't think it's necessarily true that sites are any more crowded per se than in the past as far as numbers are concerned. But what is certainly true (and it's the case in club and commercial sites equally) is that there are many more bigger outfits, huge vans with sprawling awnings and MHs the size of a small stately home (yes, I know, another exaggeration ). It's the same on camping sites - have you seen the size of some of the latest tents with extensions going every which way?
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Well there is one way to relieve the pressure on sites Open up more overnight parking areas for motorhomes. That is what the Scotish Govenernment have done with their Forestry and Land parking facilities. Hopefully they will do the same next year and they will become all year round places to stay.
peedee
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In a post some time back,you "advised" about how more financially secure (or similar words )than most you were/are,and you still maintain that it was expensive? you do not seem to have grasped todays or even the in the past what costs are still involved
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Not my idea of heaven but each to their own JVB.
Bridlington Club Site
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That's a bit unfair really. That's the new half of the site, not sure if taken this year or last, but certainly it will look better given time for the vegetation to flourish. A picure on the other half would have looked very different!
Somewhere on my old PC I have a picture taken at Cirencester Park on the grass area when only alternate pitches were open. Glorious sunshine, trees all around, a huge expanse of grass and not another unit in sight. I'd no more claim that to be typical of a club site than that rather grey picture you used.
But, hey, I thought this thread was about the provision of aires in the UK, not another opportunity for the disgruntled to criticise club sites!
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Back to Aires. There are lots of opportunities already. Here's one in Cornwall right beside the sea. It's Black Rock cafe at Widemouth Bay
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That is the new area of the site that has been opened for about two years , and as many new club and commercial sites it take many years to mature ,even if trees and bushes are planted ,we stayed on the very nice older areas . about the time the picture of the newly opened part of the site was taken
The centenery site looked as the picture when first opened ,and Tewksbury /Seacroft (new part) and the new site at Cayton bay will be the same for the next few years
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You’re giving away all the secrets!
Best avoided though, the weather is always like that in Bude
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Maybe pop over to the older part of the site and take a picture - just for balance.
Presumably, though, you're staying in that club site - with all those alternatives in the area, including a really good CL about 400 metres along the road!
Edit - a 30 second search on Google turned up this - http://www.park-my-motorhome.co.uk/english/e-yorkshire/
What on earth made you want to stay on the club site?
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A car park rather than Aire, but one of my favourites in Cornwall - Treen Village Car Park. Pay the old boy in one of the cottages on the left as you arrive. Park up on the grass towards the back of the field for good sea views. Walk along coast path to Porthcurno (amongst the best beaches and views in Cornwall), Minack Theatre and Telgraph Museum. Alternatively walk in the opposite direction to Penberth Cove. Walking routes only suitable for the fit. Toilet at entrance to car park (not sure if open this year). Careful of rip tides a couple of people at least drown here every year. Logan Rock Inn is a short walk away and small cafe in the village. Very trendy Treen Farm Campsite nearby if you like that sort of thing.
N 50˚2´59˝, W 5˚38´27˝
TR19 6LF
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Hi Bill, It's very easy to give away secrets on here.
Most Club members don't look far beyond Club sites and CLs. - the alternative options are out there for those who are prepared to branch out.
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Indeed they don’t. I’ve shared one of mine above, but I’m keeping the best & rest to myself.
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