Kia Sorento OR Hyundai Santa Fe

munro21
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edited June 2020 in Towcars & Towing #1

Hi, both the Kia Sorento and the Hyundai Santa Fe are similar cars and there doesn't seem much to choose between them. I was wondering if anybody has towed with either or even both and what do you think of them as a tow car?

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  • JVB66
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    edited June 2020 #2

    Both are both good tow cars Kia 7yr warranty Hyundai 5yrs ,made by the same company ,if new get from nearest to you dealer

  • heddlo
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    edited June 2020 #3

    We have had two Sorentos, a 13 plate manual, and currently a 66 plate auto (same shape as current ones).  Both excellent tow cars but the later model is much more comfortable and practical and the auto box is much easier and more relaxing to tow with.  Excellent long range tourer, I pull a 1800kg twin axle and have had no problems of note in 3 1/2 years/38000 miles (same for the older model).  Reasonable fuel consumption (for a 2 tonne brick), insurance and road tax.  

  • Rufs
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    edited June 2020 #4

    13 plate Sorento auto towing a Coachman Amara 550/5, brilliant, used to be a Discovery person, but never again.laughing

  • dave the rave
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    edited June 2020 #5

    Over the years I have had (all auto)......2003 3.5 petrol,2007 2.5 diesel,2010 2.2 diesel and current 2015 2.2 diesel.Apart from the 2010 model (which did not have self levelling) all have been brilliant tugs.The current 2015 kx3 is full of necessary toys like heated steering wheel and reversing camera and is the most car like to drive,also the most economical.I hope this helps.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited June 2020 #6

    Currently have a Sorento and it is probably the best tow car I've had. I get around 28mpg towing. With all the seats down plenty of room.

    I went for the Sorento as for me it looks better than the Santa Fe and the 7 year warranty.

  • dave the rave
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    edited June 2020 #7

    Sorry,should have said Sorento. And the 7 year warranty is good.

  • munro21
    munro21 Forum Participant Posts: 57
    edited June 2020 #8

    Does anybody know when they stopped doing a full sized spare wheel and changed to a space saver, and is it possible to change from a space saver to a full size wheel? 

  • EmilysDad
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    edited June 2020 #9

    I wouldn't let the lack of a full sized spare affect my choice of car ... when was the last time you ever used your spare? I had my last car about 5 or 6 years & never used the spare. EmilysMum has never used the spare in her car either in the last 7 years. And if it's slung underneath the back, as I know some Kia/Hyundai spares are, do you want to subject a full sized alloy wheel to living in all the salt & mud from the road?

  • Rufs
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    edited June 2020 #10

    And if it's slung underneath the back, as I know some Kia/Hyundai spares are, do you want to subject a full sized alloy wheel to living in all the salt & mud from the road

    well mine has been there 7 years, just poked my head underneath and it looks to be in good nick laughing, but agree, never had mine out, but i do like a full size spare for car and caravan, i think it is an age thing.

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2020 #11

    Our sportage is 7yrs old and has a full size spare ,in a well in the boot ,Sorento spare was slung underneath because of the add rear seats,

    Our dealer keeps trying to sell us a later model but they only have either a skinny spare or "repair?" kit now   and there is no way a full size spare will fit  in the space available,and at our age we need the security of a spare that can be on the car when also a caravan on the rear

  • EmilysDad
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    edited June 2020 #12

    and at our age we need the security of a spare that ....

    Not really sure what your age has to do with it ...🤔 I have a 'skinny' spare in my Merc ML, it doesn't bother me at all, as the chances are it'll only be on the car for a short time ie until I get the original wheel sorted, so far, almost 60k miles later it's still un-used in the boot.

    Kia's Sedona's spare was underslung too. The older model was full sized spare, the later 'skinny' 

    And as said .... when was the last time you used your spare? It's been years since I've used a spare. My commuting car is a Smart ... no spare at all. I have recovery if the proverbial hits the fan! 😉

  • dave the rave
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    edited June 2020 #13

    2015 Sorento has a full size matching spare but I am not sure about newer model

  • KeithL
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    edited June 2020 #14

    Never had either but my daughter, who works in a garage, steered me away from Hyundais because a lot of parts they normally get from their parts supplier for other makes are only available from Hyundai for their cars. These parts also have the appropriate huge dealer part price tag on them.

    In her experience many repairs/services they do on Hyundais work out quite a bit more expensive than for other manufacturers vehicles.,

  • Extugger
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    edited June 2020 #15

    I've towed an 1800kg caravan with both vehicles and I personally preferred the Sorento as it felt more solid and capable. No doubt the Santa Fe would be ok with something not quite so heavy.

     I'm now on my third Sorento (Auto) and I can't fault it. In fact, it's almost paid for itself in comparison to the Discovery I had previously. Great tow car, but ridiculous, enormously deep pockets required to keep it running!

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2020 #16

    Kia and Hyundai ,will only allow their own parts to be fitted to enable the warranties to continue ,rather than "copies" its the same with body parts 

  • EmilysDad
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    edited June 2020 #17

    Keith was referring to 'a garage' that his daughter works at ...not a main dealer. Main dealers of all flavours will only fit OE parts.

  • clarinetman
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    edited June 2020 #18

    Can’t compare the two as only had the Santa Fe, had 2 so far and would not change they are great value ( in my opinion) for money full size spare to me is essential, you cannot tow a caravan on anything except a full size spare and the 5 year warranty is excellent. Services are not cheap but I get 32 mpg towing my Elddis 550 and never had any issues.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited June 2020 #19

     you cannot tow a caravan on anything except a full size spare and ..

    which is contrary to what MB told me about my collapsible spare on my previous Merc 🙄🙄

  • dreamer1
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    edited June 2020 #20

    Had the Sorento first model very capable then bought a 13 plate Santa fe  endless problems with transfer boxes when towing , managed to get a 4 year old Sorento much better tow car but did have a few warranty issues all sorted. Make sure you get one with warranty left on I would advise at least 3 years and don't be afraid of pointing out any issues especially the transfer box if the vehicle has towed , when mine ran out of warranty may 2020 i changed to a RRSport because we upgraded to a new 1900 twin axle  van and the Sorento was only 19 kg within its towing limit. t did tow well but I have always wanted one and its been fantastic will tow anything without any problem.

  • dreamer1
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    edited June 2020 #21

    As long as the garage is VAT registered and serviced  every 12 months you should not have a problem they do not have to be Kia garages i can say this from experience with both Sorento and santa fe.

  • Phishing
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    edited June 2020 #22

    That would be illegal if true.

    The spare parts supply chain is as good for Kia and Hyundai as any other mainstream OEM manufacturer. Service costs are comparable to all main brands.

    I have an 18 plate Santa Fe, tows superbly and so far been very reliable. It has a full size spare, didnt even know a spacesaver tyre was an option.

    Santa Fe and Sorento share platform, architecture, and powertrain so it really comes down to which one you like the best.

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2020 #23

    I am sure it is not "illegal" for any manufactuer to insist genuine parts are fitted to their products ,rather than "copies" to keep a warranty active

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2020 #24

    Agreed, JV. What is prohibited is a manufacturer's insistence that main dealer servicing is essential to maintain the warranty. Any garage can carry out servicing and the warranty will be unaffected providing genuine parts are used.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited June 2020 #25

    Keith made no mention of warranties etc ... his point was that his daughter said that many of the pattern parts available for other makes of car were only available for Hyundais (at a premium) from Hyundai themselves. And I can vouch for some of the high parts prices from having a Hyundai some years ago ..... cheap cars made from expensive parts! 😉

  • Metheven
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    edited June 2020 #26

    Same cars but different cosmetically, all down to whether you like the more pleasing front of the Hyundai or the less pleasing Kia.

  • WillDeBeast
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    edited June 2020 #27

    They switched to the skinny spare when the adblue tank was added - around 2018.  My understanding is that there wasn't space for the full sized spare any more.

    Note that on models with a full sized spare, the spare doesn't have a TPMS sender, so when you use the spare, it will illuminate the tyre warning symbol on the dash.  

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2020 #28

    Or the extra over the Santa Fe of the Kia 7year warranty 

  • WillDeBeast
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    edited June 2020 #29

    Great things about the Sorento (Mine is a 2015 KX3 if that's relevant):

    • Easy to drive. 
    • Decent fuel consumption. 
    • Aircon in the boot area is brilliant for the dog. 
    • Android auto is brilliant. 
    • Full size spare (to 2018-ish).
    • Reliability

    Negatives:

    • spares can be expensive (eg. £600 + paint + fitting for a door mirror). 
    • Kia UK insist on annual servicing for low mileage users, when Kia Europe are happy with every two years).
    • I found some dealers are iffy.
  • WillDeBeast
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    edited June 2020 #30

    PS. There's a new Sorento due in the Autumn.  If you're buying the existing model, look for some serious discounts.

     

    https://www.whatcar.com/news/2020-kia-sorento-suv-revealed-price-specs-and-release-date/n21016

  • Phishing
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    edited June 2020 #31

    It is totally illegal under Block Exemption Regulations and the European anti competition laws. Any company breaking them face huge fines.

    The OEM is not allowed to bar alternative supply of parts or servicing by means of  punitive measures detailed in warranty documents.

    You have the legal right to have your vehicle serviced anywhere and use parts supplied from the aftermarket as long as they meet the manufacturers specifications.

    If the dealer tells you otherwise they are breaking the law.