Corona Virus Concerns

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  • SteveL
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    edited May 2020 #1232

    Personally we don't. Have only used them twice since lock down, both times for permitted shopping. However, as I put above we are very lucky and have lots of countryside walking on our doorstep. I am certainly not going to criticise someone who drives for 10 minutes to get to an area where they can walk / exercise freely, rather than walk around the streets.

  • papgeno
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    edited May 2020 #1233

    We're walking roughly one and a half hours a day as we've always done. We're keeping well away from built up areas and if we meet other walkers we'll cross the road or they will. Cyclists will mostly swerve to maintain the 2m distance and most will say "good morning" . In the six weeks since this started I've not seen many groups gathering and if we stop to chat to other walkers we'll be on on side of the road and they'll be on the other. 

    I've only used the car for the weekly shop but I must admit I'm tempted to take it for a longer run to prevent the diesel particulate filter from glogging up and recharge the battery. If I do I'll be keeping an eye out for the old bill.😉

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited May 2020 #1234

    Hmm, his jockey wheel won’t last long 😂

  • Oneputt
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    edited May 2020 #1235

    Anyone carrying a mobile phone has for years been able to be traced to a location.  The police use the triangulation method all the time.  

    As far as I’m aware you can’t be forced to download the proposed ap and of course, if you choose, you don’t need to switch your phone on

  • Pliers
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    edited May 2020 #1236

    Or keep the phone switched on, but leave it at home 😱.

    Only joking, I’ll be using the App when it’s launched, seems to be working well in other countries. 🙂

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited May 2020 #1237

    +1👍🏻, I love the whole location servs thing, W3W is a fine example👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • brue
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    edited May 2020 #1238

    We'll see if it works on the IOW first, I wonder how long it will take to evaluate? Presuming some essential journey people will be moving on and off the island although the ferries are greatly reduced.

  • KjellNN
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    edited May 2020 #1239

    Presumably then you either........

    Live close enough to be able to walk or cycle somewhere for all your food shopping

    Were able to shop on line and get a delivery slot

    Have someone who does your shopping for you

    Not everyone is so fortunate!

  • heddlo
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    edited May 2020 #1240

    We will be using the App as well.  If anyone is kind enough to tell me I have been near someone with the virus, I would rather know than pass it on to others inadvertently. 

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  • DavidKlyne
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    edited May 2020 #1242

    It works on Bluetooth to connect to adjacent phones. I suppose it might need a tiny amount of data to upload the results.

    David

  • KjellNN
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    edited May 2020 #1243

    No, neither do we as we only have PAYG on the phones and data is expensive.

  • Fisherman
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    edited May 2020 #1244

    Whereas Somerset may be a Rural county. the police have had to break up an "anti lockdown protest" in the TOWN of Glastonbury, and by all account not the first time. I rest my case.

  • SteveL
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    edited May 2020 #1245

    I believe it has to upload the Bluetooth contacts to the server periodically.  However, I doubt it needs a constant 4G signal, otherwise it wouldn't work in no signal areas. However, as DK says it would only be a small amount of data. When home your phone will lock onto the house network, so any communication with the app can use that. Personally I think the benifits would make it worth paying for a bit more data if required.

  • davetommo
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    edited May 2020 #1246

    Does that mean I Drive to north wales 1hr 30mins so 3 hour round trip and have a 5 hour walk unless the rules  for wales are not the same.

  • no one
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    edited May 2020 #1247

    If its just bluetooth it will never be a useful tool.

    how can it transmit or receive the information, the app will need data transmission, which, as others have posted, I never have turned on.

    As much as I would like to stay safe and comply with the app usage for the benefit and safety of all, I am concerned with the security of this app considering it will be transmitting your location, where you've been and potentially who you have met.

     

  • cyberyacht
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    edited May 2020 #1248

    I'm puzzled by its use off bluetooth which has a range of 30 feet for more give or take. That is going to generate a lot of contacts that may well have minimal risk.

  • moulesy
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    edited May 2020 #1249

    I think it's crystal clear, isn't it, that it still means within ones local area? For example, within 10 minutes driving I could get to a dozen villages and walk from any one of them for hours. But luckily I can do the same within 5 minutes walk from home, so that's what I do.

    I can't begin to imagine how difficult this lockdown is for folk who live in city centres with little chance of meaningful "escape". 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited May 2020 #1250

    correct the rules are not the same for Wales.

  • moulesy
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    edited May 2020 #1251

    I'm puzzled too, admittedly not greatly up on the details. But, assuming you keep your phone switched on, you have 4G or possibly 3G don't you. Doesn't that do the job? 

  • davetommo
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    edited May 2020 #1252

    It’s not crystal to me. Where does it say in ones local area. And what is local to one is not local to another.

  • moulesy
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    edited May 2020 #1253

    I'm not sure the good folk of Glastonbury are exactly typical of town/city folk, F, and certainly not any participants in that protest. But never let the facts get in the way of a prejudiced view, eh? laughing

    Edit - just seen a report on local news - the protesters aren't residents of Glastonbury itself and there is considerable anger amongstvresident about the protesters (one of whom is Jeremy Corbyn's brother. frown)

  • moulesy
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    edited May 2020 #1254

    Just use a bit of common sense, Dave!  smile

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  • davetommo
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    edited May 2020 #1256

    My answer was to this. 

    also: It is lawful to drive for exercise... driving to countryside and walking (where far more
    time is spent walking than driving).

    Lots of common sense in it. You are self isolated in your car.

  • davetommo
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    edited May 2020 #1257

    Makes me think of fisherman with his blunderbus

  • MikeyA
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    edited May 2020 #1259
    • Yes we are within walking  distance of a number of shops but online shopping is easy to get if you try at the right time.
    • We log onto Asda every week on Thursday at 10. 00 pm when they release the slots and are always able to book a slot for two weeks ahead. It is just like being a Club member booking a site in advance. Obviously if you want a slot in the next few days you will be unsuccessful 
  • JVB66
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    edited May 2020 #1260

    We have had Iceland slots   twice now ,the following eveningsurprised

  • davetommo
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    edited May 2020 #1261

    So basically then the following statement is a load of rubbish.

     

    also: It is lawful to drive for exercise... driving to countryside and walking (where far more
    time is spent walking than driving

    Last week I did 2, 59 mile journeys making a total of 118 miles each each time. Never stopped once.  

    What are you trying to achieve? the vast majority are applying common sense and doing their exercise from home or perhaps a very short drive to achieve that, why not do the same?

    I am not trying to achieve anything. Just saying what could be done based on the statement.

    As for my walks I can and do plenty from my front door.

    So please don’t lecture me on what I can and cant do.