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  • papgeno
    papgeno Forum Participant Posts: 2,158
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    edited April 2020 #872

    OH has just drawn my attention to a Facebook item declaring that our local council will not be opening their tips despite central government urging them to do so. 

    Instead  they are more than willing to collect them at the bargain price of £5.30 per bag.😱

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2020 #873

    When out with Rosa just now ,while she and some of her "mates" were having a run around ,I mentioned about Iceland and our "very late evening delivery" ,  and it seems that supermarkets are not releasing "slots" until an order is received and paid for   ,which then gives a slot ,as that was what seems to have happened with us  ,  as there  were no slots shown for at least the next week

    Ps its a min £35 for free del from Iceland

  • Wherenext
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    edited April 2020 #874

    .Muppets all of em😤

    Hey Rocky, please be a bit more judicious when labelling Politicians as Muppets. I always enjoyed the Muppets and am sure they would object to being labelled with the MPs in such a fashion.😱

    Otherwise carry on the good work.👍

    (My favourites were Waldorf and Statler).

  • Wherenext
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    edited April 2020 #875

    And when they closed them didn't every sensible person say that all that was going to happen would be an increase in Fly Tipping?

    It was so obvious and counter productive to close the sites. 

    I do understand that they were short staffed but they could have reduced the number and maybe restrict visits to certain days depending on areas where people lived within the towns they serviced.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2020 #876

    It seems B2 is in a similar situation.

    When I first heard the promises coming from Govt I thought they’d got everything sewn up and the folk who needed help would get it with the army of willing volunteers being organised to help as required. How naive of me. I should have known better.☹️

     

  • papgeno
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    edited April 2020 #877

    PS this is the same council that banned anybody from attending cremations at their two crematoriums in the face of government guidelines allowing up to 10 mourners. 

    Thankfully they backtracked on that this week so there's still a chance they'll changed their minds, especially when they realise that Yorkshire folk are not daft enough to pay their ludicrous charges.

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited April 2020 #878

    My apologies to the Muppets👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻. I realised my 1st option of multiple swear words would’ve upset far more folk👍🏻

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited April 2020 #879

    Mmmm, along the lines of all the companies offering to re engineer their production lines to make PPE that the Govt totally ignored, they preferred to say they are delivering PPE when clearly they were not. By the way this is not politically biased I dislike & mistrust every party of every persuasion👍🏻. 

  • moulesy
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    edited April 2020 #880

    There is an article on the front page of today's Telegraph showing how that army of volunteers and all the associated good will has been wasted. 750000 volunteers?  About 20000 tasks undertaken so far, 

    Mrs M volunteered, heard nothing for a week and then decided the process was so complicated that she phoned our local LINK scheme instead. Just emailed a copy of her driving licence, was accepted there and then and has been doing prescription pick ups daily since then.

    When governments get involved there are plenty of sound bites but relatively little or very slow action to match. frown

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited April 2020 #881

    Is it just me but isn't someone who hires an unlicensed collector without any checks just as guilty as the people that actually dump the rubbish? 

  • JollyKernow
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    edited April 2020 #882

    Gotta be Gonzo and good ol' Fozzie Bearlaughing

    JK

  • KjellNN
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    edited April 2020 #883

    Yes, I heard that too.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited April 2020 #884

    In the eyes of the law maybe, but I bet that not everyone knows to check that the man-in-a-van has such a waste carriers licence ...

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2020 #885

    Surely people are not that silly,  to not  checkundecided

    I posted a warning from Hertfordshire police a couple of weeks ago that it would be an increasing problem , 

  • KjellNN
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    edited April 2020 #886

    This week was our recycling bins collection  week, so OH checked the council website in case they had restarted collections, but it seems they have not. None of our tips are open either.  While we have some outside space we could store bagged up stuff, what are those living in flats supposed to do?  So much for encouraging recycling!

  • Bakers2
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    edited April 2020 #887

    That's how I started with Iceland! On checking now my basket was empty, only been in there 3 weeks! No patience some folk. Anyway I chucked some bits in got to £38.50 book a slot, none available. Whoops just re read yours didn't pay! Better go back and check what's in the the basket.

    Actually some instructions would be good. Tesco you cant shop until you've got a slot, then theres a time limit.

    Might be back shortly 😀

    Edit cant pay until you get a slot, redirects to delivery page when you click pay. Good try though. At least I've got a basket full to try at various times 🤞

  • ForestR
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    edited April 2020 #888

    It would seem that we have been very fortunate all bins collected ( 4 different bins over 3 week cycle) on allocated day and now recycling centres open as well much to the delight of one of my neighbours whose already starting to load the sorted junk from his garage into the car to take early tomorrow morning. It would be churlish of me not to thank Wigan council.

    On the question of people not checking that waste collectors removing rubbish for them are properly licensed if you've ever watched the daytime tv programmes featuring investigations into fly tipping you will have seen many don't.

  • Bakers2
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    edited April 2020 #889

    Most folk wouldn't even think! They'd be happy with a bargain charge. Even that wouldn't cause a stop and think moment. Out of mind out of sight. How was I supposed to know?? You can hear them already 😥

    We have plenty of room to store, but luckily we dont need to at the mo as council continuing as normal, but I feel for folks in flats and where they have no room. Rotting rubbish is not a perfume I would select from the range.

  • JohnM20
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    edited April 2020 #890

    Our garden waste collection has been discontinued for the time being and our recycling bin was suspended for two weeks but is now reinstated. With having quite a big garden there is some garden waste that we can't compost and bonfires are now banned, (not that we ever had one) so we relied on the fortnightly collection or took large amounts to the tip - which is now closed. It's now a case of bag it up and hope that one day we can get rid of it.

    The council here, quite reasonably, have recently asked people living in a close or cul-de-sac to put all their bins in a central place making it easier and quicker for the bin-men to collect especially as many of them are not the usual crew. This we have done very successfully for the last two weeks except for today, and words fail me. There is a  fairly elderly widowed lady who lives in our cul-de-sac so when one of her neighbours saw her bin on the pavement outside her house last night they took it, along with their own, to the 'central point'. This morning, before the bins had been emptied, I saw this lady in question retrieve her bin and wheel it 100 yards back to her house and leave it on the pavement ready for collection. The bin men then had to go back down the road to collect this solitary bin . Talk about being anti-social and inconsiderate. It's no wonder her daughters have stopped coming to see her. Had I been a bin man I would have left it, but then again I wouldn't have wanted to be on the wrong end of her vicious tongue.

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2020 #891

    Just had a Dispatched email from Iceland ,with a list of not available items ,6 in all  ,,which has taken it below the min free delivery price ,still not a charge surprised 

  • mike132
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    edited April 2020 #892

    Ref Rocky2 and Government Muppets.  The politicians announce the schemes then pass it to the Civil Servants for action. Think Sir Humphrey and 'Yes Minister' !!

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited April 2020 #893

    Some of the joined up thinking is in the farcical section to be honest. I was inundated with texts last week, telling me to go total self isolate, don’t go out, getting everything delivered, no family, friends etc.... On “extremely vulnerable” apparently. This of course is a mere 3.5 weeks into the original lockdown. Only I am not extremely vulnerable. It was for someone else, who, reading through the specific conditions, doesn’t tick any of those boxes either! Now Mum........response from Docs was in the “oh, er, can we ring you back” category. So they did. On the wrong phone number, so that call went to another family member😡 Yesterday I got an urgent text from NHS Shielding Service (🤷‍♀️) telling me to await a phone call shortly. 24 hours later, still no phone call. Luckily, we are well organised, taking precautions as we should, but imagine this happening to a vulnerable person on their own, with no family help. Beggars belief really.

    Now isn’t the time to be doing it, but there needs to be some serious cross party debate and discussion, because without doubt, this country’s response and preparation on a number of fronts has been seriously lacking. Time for a very big rethink of health and social care, as big as the original NHS set up if you ask me. 

  • marchie1053
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    France has pledged to reopen a PPE Factory that was closed a couple of years ago in favour of moving to a Chinese Supplier. Apparently, the French factory was capable of turning out the required quality and quantity and Unions warned of the consequences of closing down a domestic production facility. 'Horse bolted' but there is at least still a factory wall from which to hang the gate.

    Just hope that UK builds domestic production as part of the revival of the UK economy, but its track record is not great. UK Government chose not to stockpile PPE Visors in 2016 because it would have cost slightly more to provide storage covers for the Screens.

    Steve

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited April 2020 #895

    First policy this nation needs to sort out is putting anything and everything out to the cheapest tender, or buyer. We own nothing, we make very little that isn’t controlled overseas. It’s a disgrace.

    🤔 Actually, we make toilet rolls. In Leicester. Unlike the crazy Aussies who get all theirs from China. But of course social media is global, so panic buying half a world away is replicated by the stupid here. Duh... 🔨 

  • KjellNN
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    edited April 2020 #896

    I think all councils are collecting the smelly waste B2, it is just the garden and recycling bins that have been cut out, certainly here anyway.

  • HelenandTrevor
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    edited April 2020 #897

    We are lucky so far our bin collections have remained the same, but for how long it can continue I don't know.

    With regard to online shopping deliveries our neighbours opposite had a large Sainsbury's delivery this morning,  as they are a young couple I was a bit disappointed that they had possibly taken a delivery slot away from someone who is vulnerable and who perhaps hasn't been able to get a delivery. frown

  • Tammygirl
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    edited April 2020 #898

    In our area all the bins are being collected, the recycle centre is closed though so our garden waste is mounting up.

    The garden bin collection you have to pay for at £35 a bin. As 1 bin isn't enough for us we decided not to bother.

    Bakers2, saw this on my FB page not sure it its of any help.

    have just ordered my mum a free food parcel from the government, she has COPD .... Any high risk people are entitled to one... Easy application. Follow link. Everyone should know about this.

    If you are applying for a couple then 2 separate applications have to be done or you will just receive a box for 1 person.

    https://www.gov.uk/coronavirus-extremely-vulnerable

  • Bakers2
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    edited April 2020 #899

    Thanks Tammygirl I have completed that several weeks back. Didn't find anywhere to get a box. If they're going we can have one or two and if there's things we don't like they can be redistributed to food charity. Our community has a bench for locals and a neighbour would drop it for me. Sadly I don't have enough at present to give as I don't know what's coming on my online shop 😂😂

    I wonder if it's different in Scotland?? First question asks do you live in England? Never mind I'll go through the form again, don't have to submit it, or maybe better to be on the list twice? Who knows? We are ok for stuff at the moment thankfully.

  • Bakers2
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    edited April 2020 #900

    I've gone through the form again but this time clicking I live in Scotland, different start and a link to a free box per person per week free delivery free food. Doesn't seem to apply in England - wont persue any more cos we can afford the food, it's getting it that's the issue 😂😂😂

  • Wherenext
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    edited April 2020 #901

    So much for a United Kingdom eh B2? 

    The first minister in Wales has stated that the lockdown could, if he deemed it necessary, extend beyond England's. Great. As I'm only 15 minutes from the border I might have to make a dash for it when the time comes.