Site closures and storage
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Agreed, Micky. Noticing something as you pass is one thing but the inference I took from Ro's comment was one of planned watchfulness/active checking.
The furlough scheme prohibits doing anything at all that can be construed as being of benefit to the employer.
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GR, yes, facilities are open and staff are cleaning them according to a poster who was staying on such a site. One assumes those staff are not furloughed.
Whether storage exists on those same sites, is another question.
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If they are working, then why can’t they provide access to storage areas if they are on their sites?
again it is my understanding that only 17 sites are open and i guess not all will have storage facilities, but where storage is available maybe access is permitted as staff are working almost normally with the exception of some cleaning of facilities duties
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There are several inconsistencies with how the club is working the furlough system? with statements from the club
1 In statements posted on here " site staff are furloughed as are some HO staff?
2 Site staff , those who have posted on here, are on their sites but furloughed?
3 There are 17 sites giving "refuge?"and according to posts on here the Facilities are open for use? who is cleaning them?
4 The sites that have storage will if given 24hrs notice allow LVs of essential workers to enter and or leave the storage
5 So it seems that sites that have storage toilet,facilities and have members on sites surely ,the staff cannot be furloughed
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I've edited since, Rufs, to include the source of my info.
Yep, agreed, who cares? I'm going to watch my grass grow.
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The good sense of respondents is clear. Thank you.
As the issue of staff is a matter now being freely discussed, how do we get clarification from the CAMC on the employed/furloughed status on the seventeen sites mentioned above by Rufs?
This is a safeguarding issue for members concerning our club. Depending upon the answer there maybe legal issues.
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Clarification? No chance. We are mere members and have no need for that sort of operational info 🙄🥴🤨😋
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Give them a ring. If someone answers, staff are there. Recorded message they are furloughed. Operational Sites are mainly in London/SE area, and Midlands I think. If it’s WWP you are after.....not a prayer......
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agreed, the club i think are having a tough time ensuring they are sticking to gov guidelines, and some are only guidelines, rules which have to be obeyed from a legal perspective, and ensuring staff on the various sites are adequately protected, whilst at the same time having to comply with some local council regulations, and from barrack room lawyers lobing grenades over the fence.
dread to think what is going to happen come July if sites are permitted to open, prepare your lists now of what you would want to see from the club so that we can get it all out in the open, personally my caravan is staying put this year, i think ,
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There is an assumption here that they can't use the site phone for personal purposes, safety or otherwise. Also, who knows who is calling until you answer it. Who knows the reasons they may have to make a call. Just answering a phone does not answer the question, they may still be furloughed, it may be their only contact with the outside world!
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"dread to think what is going to happen come July if sites are permitted to open, prepare your lists now of what you would want to see from the club so that we can get it all out in the open....."
This too is going to be problematic and a practically impossible a situation to ensure all are 'happy'. Many will argue for toilets and other communal areas to be closed, others not. Some will want a total return to how it was, others a complete new set of 'behaviours' to be implemented. Some will be frustrated by restrictions and inconveniences, others reassured.
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I realise that info is difficult at this time but the department dealing with storage will have the answers I'd reckon. Some are jumping to their own conclusions mind.
Another David, I respectfully ask if you thought my van wasn't in storage when you liked a previous post? I'd hate to jump to a conclusion!
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I quite understand about the present situation ,the dept dealing with storage/sites have put a blanket ban on all sites? but do not seem to be able ,where it permits ,to have any flexibility, to allow access for members to check on their own vehicles, it is as has been said,, by the experts ,that the stress to some of the lockdown is going to be a difficult situation for some to overcome and talking to others we know who are also in cc /other inaccessible storage ,it is correct
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The dept dealing with storage/sites have put a blanket ban on all sites, but do not seem to be able, where it permits, ( i.e. where there is a warden on a site which is one of the 17 with occupied vans ) to have any flexibility to allow access for members to check on their own vehicles.
JVB, I think this is what you have been trying to say. If this is the case it does seem strange that members with vans on those site can't arrange a time, with the non-furloughed wardens, to access their vans to check that they are ok.
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Yes that is one of the reasons for my post, but the information that is coming out of HO it seems ,with ref to storage (ie 24hr notice for essential ?workers) could mean any site on the network that has storage (even seasonal), which seems to go against the furlough regulations? ,but as you high lighted withmy post (thanks) ,an even more of a mixed message
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Far be it! All I do is question the assumptions we are all making and pointing out the challenges we, including me, are facing. I also have offered alternative explanations but never suggested anthing over the possible or probable..The club have got things wrong in my opinion, as have the government in these unprecedented times, difficult not too. But one should not shoot those who raise elements into discussions just because they may contradict or be unsupportive of another.. We need discussion where all angles are explored, not just assumptions which blindly support a proposed opinion.
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