Replacing my Freelander tow car

Stewart P
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edited January 2020 in Towcars & Towing #1

I've been towing a caravan for almost 6 years, the first 3 with a Freelander 2 XS TD4 manual and the balance with one of the last Freelander's built, a SD4 Metropolis that only came with an auto gearbox and has a high spec with lots of features that would normally come as extras, including a full sized spare wheel. The current car has 190bhp, 420Nm of torque, approx 1800 kerbside weight and can take a tow ball loading of 150kgs. Both cars have been fantastic towing vehicles of the two caravans we have owned, both single axles and slightly under 1500kgs weight.

However, now that our current car is 5 years old and is well out of warranty I've been looking at replacements but am struggling on finding a car with similar properties. I'm resigned to having to have a "skinny" spare wheel and 100kgs max tow ball loading but most potentially suitable cars seem to be longer, (and clumsier), with 7 seats I don't need, have a list price with the essential features over the £40,000 threshold that means you have to pay the government a significant premium on the road fund licence for the first 5 years.

Any sensible suggestions? I would like to buy an almost new, up to 2 yrs old to keep the cost down, keep the list price new under the £40k threshold, with a reversing camera, heated seats and leather trim if possible.

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  • JVB66
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    edited January 2020 #4

    Kia Sportage  Kx4  ,7year warranty and some have a full size spare

  • EmilysDad
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    edited January 2020 #5

    It's a Land Rover out of warranty 😉😁

  • huskydog
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    edited January 2020 #6

    They don’t build em like they used tolaughing

  • JVB66
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    edited January 2020 #7

    Noted by the way Haynes Manuals fly off the shelves as soon as any model land rover is introducedwink

  • Freddy55
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    edited January 2020 #8

    Aren’t they a bit on the light side? When I was looking for a tow car, I think I ruled it out because it wasn’t heavy enough (kerb weight). I don’t think I checked that particular model though.

  • JVB66
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    edited January 2020 #9

    Depends what your c/van is?if its a ta go for the Sorrento

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited January 2020 #10

    Take a look at Jeeps. There’s something to suit most folks. Avoid Renegade though, it’s a Fiat in drag, looks like a Fiat, drives like a Fiat, performs like a Fiat. Unworthy of the Jeep badge.

  • Freddy55
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    edited January 2020 #11

    The OP mentions 1500 KG’s, about the same as mine.

  • lornalou1
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    edited January 2020 #12

    agree about the renegade and don't like them. look on autotrader and can get an ex demo Grand Cherokee 6 month old with everything on it for under £40k. superb tow car.

  • davetommo
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    edited January 2020 #13

    If it was over £40k when new you are still stung with the extra government road tax till it is 5years old

  • davetommo
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    edited January 2020 #14

    My brother is a mechanic and has a merc, it goes into limp mode for no reason. Fortunately for him he is a mechanic so takes his laptop every where in the car with him, plugs it in to wherever you plug these things, clears the faults and presto it goes till next time. 

  • EmilysDad
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    edited January 2020 #15

    I had a Merc too that went into limp due to a turbo related problem, but it's LR that have the reputation & I was making a joke! kiss

    And I replaced that Merc with another Merc with basically the same engine! 🙄

  • Phishing
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    edited January 2020 #16

    Sorento or its sibling Santa Fe.

    4x4, loads of kit, tows beautifully, comfy.

    5 or 7 year warranty, not that you will probably need it.

    7 seats just leave row 3 under the floor, 7 seaters have really good residuals.

    Not frugal but then should be better than the Disco, tank range to get you as far as you want to go in a day.

    £40k may even get a new pre-reg one.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited January 2020 #17

    I half looked at a Kia when I bought my ML ... one thing that put me off was the under slung spare wheel and its proximity to the tow bar. I never investigated further but does the tow bar not foul the spare? 🤔

  • Metheven
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    edited January 2020 #18

    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, that's why I dismissed the ugly fronts (grills) of the Jeep and Kia, Hyundai looks better.

  • Navigateur
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    edited January 2020 #19

    If Land Rovers break down as often as some people allege then it follows there should be plenty of places with experience in fixing them.

  • Boff
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    edited January 2020 #20

    Human nature being what it is 90% of people are going to recommend the model/brand they currently drive.  10% are going to say don’t touch their current model with a barge pole.   We currently have a VW Touareg and are delighted with it as a tow car.  Admittedly we only have a SA caravan but it’s mptlm is 1900kg.

    For me it represents value for money because I am not paying a premium for a badge.   The only problem we have had is a rear door lock failed twice the second time just outside of warranty, the lock was over £300 plus fitting.  Or £30  for a late scrap lock.  I can now change the lock on a Touareg 😄. 

    But if the OP likes his current vehicle why is he thinking about changing?  Change for the sake of change is imho a bit of a mugs game. 

  • bill
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    edited January 2020 #21

    I changed my Freelander 2 for a Volvo XC60 D4 AWD Auto R Design and have been very impressed with the towing capabilities and the comfort of the ride.  Also very economical too.

  • Rufs
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    edited January 2020 #22

    Have one. After being a LR fanatic for several years, swopped to Sorento when i did not need a serious off roader, best thing i ever did. Dont buy the Sportage for 1500kg too light in my opinion, i tow `1575kg and Sorento is fine with 100 kg nose down, mine is 2013 model (auto) and has full sized spare wheel slung underneath at rear, never had mine up as a 7 seater, dog lives in boot. Not that i have had any problems with mine, touch wood, but just make sure you are familiar with 7 year warranty, there are some exclusions which could make your hair curl.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited January 2020 #23

    Never really considered that MM, but we have a detectable tow bar and there is a couple of inches between it and the attachment and never seem to hit the spare when putting it on. If I get the chance I'll take a pic or actually measure it tomorrow. I suppose it might mean taking the spare off with a permanent tow bar (fingers crossed I never have to do that - you know how useless I am with anything mechanical) more difficult?

  • Phishing
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    edited January 2020 #24

    No problem with fit, I have full size spare and permanent bar. It is close but no problem getting spare up or down as it hangs on a wire rope thing so once its swinging its easy to position. 

  • EmilysDad
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    edited January 2020 #25

    There was no bar fitted to the Kia I looked at so I was just curious about the amount of room. Obviously the (main) dealer was clueless 😯

    Fortunately my skinny spare is safe & snug in the boot of my ML and my towball drops down at the touch of a button! 😊

  • cyberyacht
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    edited January 2020 #26

    "...but we have a detectable tow bar"

    Could be tricky if you couldn't find it. wink

  • Navigateur
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    edited January 2020 #27

    Often found with someones knee cap though!

  • EasyT
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    edited January 2020 #28

    Either an overheight tow ball or very short stature. I am 5' 6'' and my knees are safe

  • JVB66
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    edited January 2020 #29

    How come the Sportage you looked at was 1500kg  our is 1750kgundecided

  • Freddy55
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    edited January 2020 #30

    I think the 1500 quoted refers to the caravan.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited January 2020 #31

    Corners does numbers .... not letters 😉