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  • JVB66
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    edited December 2019 #32

    Our Kia is very rarely used for other than towing, as that's what our bus and train passes are for , much cheaper than running another carwink

  • huskydog
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    edited December 2019 #33

    I’m not like most people as well ( as I’ve been told) ,I am the only driver but I’ve got 3 vehicles cool

  • EmilysDad
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    edited December 2019 #34

    I get what you're saying, but running a Smart for work (50 miles round trip) I feel is cheaper in the long run than running a leviathan gas guzzling 4x4 tank on a daily basis and SWMBO has her own car. Maybe in a few years time when on a pension things might be different

  • EmilysDad
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    edited December 2019 #35

    I must be greedy. There's a ML, Smart Fortwo, Smart Roadster, Citroen C3 & a TDM bike at our house (not that the bike has been ridden in a while 😳)

  • Lutz
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    edited December 2019 #36

    First of all it's horsepower that gets the car and caravan over the hill, not torque.

    That aside, but the latest generation of turbo petrols, such as the 6cyl. BMW engine, develop maximum torque at well below 1500rpm, which is about the same as the equivalent diesel and with upwards of 450Nm of torque, there's plenty of that, too.

  • Conqueror2
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    edited December 2019 #37

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  • Conqueror2
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    edited December 2019 #38

    Lutz....My thinking is very much in line with your comments. As petrol engines now more effective, and torque powerful, they seem to be suitable for towing. Diesel are ideal but petrol suitable.  The residual value of diesels are possibly on a downward slope due to environmental issues.
    Are you able to be specific as to which tow car you have, weight of your caravan and consumption, with and without caravan.

    With regards

  • EasyT
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    edited December 2019 #39

    Same for us David. Fliss has had her 20 year old Yaris for 17 years. Far easier to run around locally and she would not wish to drive the X-trail 

  • 63ellsbells
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    edited December 2019 #40

    Pretty decent figures there David I would say, for a big estate. I don’t often check my mpg, but I think I’m getting around 26mpg whilst towing. Not sure about solo but my long term trip meter is showing around 22,000 miles with averages of 36mpg and 42mph. It’s the Audi version of the Merc, with the 3.0V6 BiTDi so 320bhp & 650Nm - more than happy with the diesel smile

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2019 #41

    But as I stated in my post most households with only ONE driver surprised

    Ps there are two one driver households in our area that have more than one vehicle the other tends to be a "works van" or in two houses their "project  classic car" wink

  • EasyT
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    edited December 2019 #42

    But as I stated in my post most households with only ONE driver

    Not sure that I see the relevance regarding my reply to David. No matter though

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2019 #43

    As I have posted before the bigger the engine the more grunt it has,what cc is the bm engine

  • Lutz
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    edited December 2019 #44

    I presume that you are referring to the engine for which I have quoted figures. It is the 3 litre petrol.

    By the way, my 3 litre diesel is redlined at 5500rpm, so it's no slugger, either.

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2019 #45

    Ours 2ltr is also red lined at over 5000, where as the petrol is at over 7000 where the power iswink

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    edited December 2019 #46
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  • EmilysDad
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    edited December 2019 #47

    1 like was from me ..... no, I didn't understand either 🤔

  • Lutz
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    edited December 2019 #48

    Sounds like you‘ve got a very peaky engine there if maximum power doesn’t come in well before it reaches maximum revs.

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  • EmilysDad
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    edited December 2019 #50

    Agreed +1. I don't think I use that many revs on my 3 pot Smart 1000cc

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2019 #51

    But the you understood according to an earlier post of yoursundecided

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2019 #52

    I do not now have the leaky petrol version as I stated our 2ltr red lines at 5000 I  am sure but not been out  to check,

    Just checked 4500 revsundecided

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2019 #53

    Read peaky not leaky 

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2019 #54

    wink

  • Rev Ken
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    edited January 2020 #55

    Just joined in this discussion. Brief outline is that we need our little 2009 Compass Corona Club 362 to visit family 300 miles South and 200 miles North. I'm in my 80s and my wife is 79 with two artificial knees. we've tried trains - unreliable, rarely get a seat in spite of booking and are very limited in what we can take. Using a car is OK, but once with family there are too many difficulties in negotiating baths with showers over them, plus other factors. Hence our caravan is the best and 'safest' option. We had a '61' 1.4TSI Golf. Solo it did around 40mpg, pulling the caravan 20mpg (DSG gearbox). This August I replaced it with a '17' two litre Diesel Golf which pulls it with far less effort, getting 30mpg, and solo I get in the mid 60s on motorway long trips Also a DSG gearbox, with 'stop/start' helping in town. 

    We are far happier with our Diesel, but which one is the more polluting?

  • cyberyacht
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    edited January 2020 #56

    If you're using less fuel, QED it's less polluting.

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