Have CAMC over priced some sites

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  • Wellys and Mac
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    edited August 2019 #92

    Thanking you.

    😁

  • PITCHTOCLOSE
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    edited August 2019 #93

    Every Friday ant Saturday night should be peak and mid week off peak.

  • Oscarmax
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    edited August 2019 #94

    In a nutshell the CMC prices are now too high, next year they will be even higher, the knock on effect for use like a lot of our friend we are booking less CMC main sites, it would seem we are not alone, next year we will use more no facilities sites like Stover and more CL's.

     

  • Cornersteady
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    edited August 2019 #95

    Really not if you think about it, Firstly I wonder why it says readers and not members then?

    Surely if it was actually members they would fall over themselves to say so, but it is left as readers? Then why mention typical reader? What is an untypical reader, so many hidden things there, not average reader but typical. It just sets off so many alarm bells.

    Also too many variables in there, get one and reading it are two different things. How many times do people on here say they put it straight to recycling? Also there is only one magazine per couple or family so are all those readers double counted? 

     

     

  • PITCHTOCLOSE
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    edited August 2019 #96

    I only book them because it costs nothing, if something crops up better or cheaper I cancel.

  • Wellys and Mac
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    edited August 2019 #97

    Yes to your last paragraph, it would appear so.

    But in collecting stats, if you look at the CT stuff and web page info, big brother is tracking you, the only answer, recording your every click!

    Readers, because as you say it's the mag their flogging, but arnt readers and members the same in essence? I think I'm the member but Michelle isnt? Cant remember 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited August 2019 #98

    And that is fine, don't pay for something that  doesn't give you good value.

    But there is a comment like yours every single year since CT started and still the club goes on, still people complaining about not getting a pitch, limit weekenders...so are these comments only on CT or reflected in real life?

  • EasyT
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    edited August 2019 #99

    I think I'm the member but Michelle isnt? Cant remember 

    I seem to recollect you having said that one one site you walked the dog whilst Michelle booked in and so I presume that she is a member?

  • Cornersteady
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    edited August 2019 #100

    yes but (and sorry to deflate both our egos) posters on CT form a very (insignificant) minority of members and those using sites. I've said it before - next time your stuck in a traffic jam start to name and  count how many regular posters there are on CT, 20? 30? maybe 100 if you really try hard enough, out of how many hundreds of thousand members? 

    No - if the club had actual evidence that it was members they would say that so to get more adverts, reader is too nebulous (posh word eh?) 

  • Wellys and Mac
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    edited August 2019 #101

    I'm curious now, she's over at York today with our grandson, went last night with him, muggings here had to go to work, he's only just 6,  gets super excited to sleep in caravan, bless him.

    I'll ask her when I phone home later on tonight. Could be we just blag it with my card  dunno.

  • Wellys and Mac
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    edited August 2019 #102

    Actually its saying households not readers.

    I'm going to look that word up, isn't it a galaxy from star trek?

    True about CT, when I rejoin the club the web site forced me to register for it, perhaps purely to help sell the mags advertising space?

  • Cornersteady
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    edited August 2019 #103

    no first page it does say reader, first thing you see on your link and it is repeated all the way through.

    almost - but possibly wrong film, you're probably thinking Guardians of the Galaxy? - that's why there is a difference between posh and rich.

    Post edit are you thinking the second ST film?

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  • Cornersteady
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    edited August 2019 #105

    wow, had to like that one.

    In fact I'm giving you the ultimate accolade -   +1

  • Wellys and Mac
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    edited August 2019 #106

    Ah of course, us working class, that's not working in a class, would automatically think Star Trek.🖖

    But it also says delivered to what ever the number is, Household, just checked again. Have you opened the MEDIA PACK?

    Mute point really, just thought I would answer your demographics question. Must try harder 👨‍💻

     

     

  • EasyT
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    edited August 2019 #107

    In a nutshell the CMC prices are now too high,

    In the opinion of some but they are still popular.

    like a lot of our friend we are booking less CMC main sites

    We too book a smaller proportion of CC sites but that is not down to cost. When I worked and OH worked I would have  12 weeks leave available but OH more like 8 weeks. That meant shorter tours until she retired Shorter tours meant fewer sites further apart and CC sites filled that need fairly well with a couple of private sites to fill gaps. When OH retired I could use ny 12 weeks but that probably meant 9 weeks touring and 3 weeks abroad and so little difference. The last 11 years we tour in the caravan for 15 or 16 weeks with a 2 week stop as well. We find that with longer trips of 9 sites we have shorter hops between sites and use more non CC sites proportionally to fit our location needs.

  • MikeyA
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    edited August 2019 #108

     Just seems to confirm most non members view that the CAMC is only for elitists and middle class.

    I'm surprised that the CAMC have published this, it seems a good reason for many to join the CCC.

     

  • Cornersteady
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    edited August 2019 #109

    Have a read of the above Burt and the target of the document.

    Elitist? doesn't look that way on sites.

    You forget the reason why people join the club and usually it is because one has a caravan or motor-home and wants somewhere to pitch it?

    So there has to be be a certain level of 'money earned' to be able to buy, or loan the money, for your outfit in the first place. Is that middle class territory? Is that a surprise you thought it was? 

  • MikeyA
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    edited August 2019 #110

    Corners, when I look around CAMC sites I see a lot of upmarket cars and new caravans ( and before you ask yes I do fit into that observation) whereas on CCC sites the average cost/outfit seems lower.

    If I was just starting out with an older car and van and young children I would prefer the CCC.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited August 2019 #111

    excellent Burt, but how does that square with your earlier post?

    and so what 'class' of people go to CCC sites then? Not middle? What class is the CCC only for?

    Actually I've never worked out what middle class is.

  • Wellys and Mac
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    edited August 2019 #112

    Im very definitely working class, drive a lorry, at night. I earn +£49k as do others +-

    Michelle is in retail management, worked up from the shop floor, again defo working class, earn +£41k as do others +-

    Nice things are no longer the exclusive possession of elites.

    If I felt looked down on in any way on a CMC site, I would burn money to bbq a sausage, I have the surplus and the will, I dont see it, sorry.

    There is always some one with more, just live your way.

     

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited August 2019 #113

    You must be very well off to afford the extra £12 p/n as a non-member😯

  • MikeyA
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    edited August 2019 #114

    I always refer to the image portrayed at the Caravan shows:

    CAMC staff in suits and ties 

    CCC staff looking like overgrown boy scouts.

    I think it says it all - I know which I prefer.

  • EasyT
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    edited August 2019 #115

    Well W&M you are minted then far bigger income than me and OH at £90k compared to our meagre £52k. What's more you have less days to spend it compared to us poor retirees smile

  • moulesy
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    edited August 2019 #116

    We've been on 3 CAMC sites and 3 C&CC sites so far this year. If anyone thinks there is a marked difference in "clientelle" they must have stayed at very different dates at very different times to us! undecided

  • Wellys and Mac
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    edited August 2019 #117

    Exactly.

    It's all relevant. 

    Hate that sort of talk

    No matter what an outfit costs, we all pee in a bucket!

  • Cornersteady
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    edited August 2019 #118

    I have no idea Burt?

    I base my holidays on what the on site facilities are like and standards rather than the uniform or look of the staff.

    Funny how you never get a up to CCC standard on reviews by non club magazines though?

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  • eurortraveller
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    edited August 2019 #120

    Take Looe Club site with its open air pool . Now what good is an open air pool in September ?  So the site has over a hundred pitches vacant at weekends in September.

    But put a retractable cover on the pool, crank up the heating, offer a timetabled programme of adult swimming, family swimming, aquarobics, lessons for children etc and things might change. Instal a bistro,  advertise in Plymouth and Exeter, draw in more business, stop charging non members £12 extra, make everyone welcome, pensioners with dogs are not enough to make some profit. 

    Be happy. Have fun. My son in law calls Club sites the land of the living dead.

  • MikeyA
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    edited August 2019 #121

    As JVB would say it all depends who you know  wink