Winter storage and central heating

Lambdrover
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I am in the fortunate position of having a locked shed on my farm to store the caravan in. The shed has electricity so I am able to keep the caravan plugged in to the mains. The question is 'can i keep the central heating on in the caravan when it is in the shed?' Or is it better practice to drain down the system and keep it unplugged?

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  • JillwithaJay
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    edited August 2019 #2

    We too are in the fortunate position of keeping our van at home (but not under cover) and keep it permanently plugged in to the mains. In the colder months, we plug in a small heater on a timer rather than the van's central heating.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited August 2019 #3

    Drain the system? If you have wet Alde heating there's anti-freeze in the the system so no need to drain. Our caravan lives at home too but though it's plugged into the mains I only have the battery on charge as I've never seen the point of heating the caravan while there's no one in it.

  • hitchglitch
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    edited August 2019 #4

    If it’s an Alde system it has antifreeze anyway and also be wary of fumes building up in the shed from the boiler exhaust.

    A shed gives you more protection than leaving the caravan outdoors and should be good enough without heating but if you wish to keep the heat ticking over then a small oil filled radiator plugged into the mains would be best.

    Personally I would say that the significant cost of the fuel used is an unnecessary extravagance with limited advantage.

  • wildemere
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    edited August 2019 #5

    I drain down the hot and cold water system, my van is outside and plugged into the mains electric, The heating is set at 10 C , there are no fumes on electric. From time to time I run the heating up to 20 C to air the van, It has been know for me to take a book and sit in the van reading. and even falling asleep. thinking of all the great days out I have had. 

  • dmiller555
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    edited August 2019 #6

    Heating a caravan when it is not in use is a complete waste of energy. 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited August 2019 #7

    If the heating has a frost protection setting, that will suffice. Otherwise, it’s personal choice whether to heat or not. One school of thought suggests heating it will encourage condensation and mould due to temperature fluctuation. I don’t think I’d bother seeing it’s in a shed. Our van stays plugged in at home for battery charging because the SP can’t cope but nothing else is turned on.

  • derekcyril
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    edited August 2019 #8

    1994 swift  no heating in van all these years no mould on furnishings ,natural air  flow , just adjust cushions away from walls 

  • richardandros
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    edited August 2019 #9

    That's exactly what I dosmile

  • Tigi
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    edited August 2019 #10

    Agree one hundred percent, in fact I would actually suggest it does more harm than good, heating and cooling the van creates condensation. In over twenty years of ownership of motorhomes and caravans I`ve never heated or used dehumidifiers etc and never had any issue whatsoever, except one season when I put a so called breathable cover on a caravan - result was internal damp which caused mildew.

  • JayOutdoors
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    edited August 2019 #11

    Don’t have any experience of Alde heating system but I do drain down all other water tanks/pipes/boiler heater/flush tank/loo & leave all taps & cupboard doors open to encourage air circulation if LV is to stand for any period especially if frost may occur.  Also keep it plugged in but have never used heating.  Have occasionally moved bench seat cushions indoors.

  • Wellys and Mac
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    edited August 2019 #12

    2016 Coachman Pastiche 575, with Alde heating.

    Mine has over wintered for 3 years in a field, wind chill the lot. It isnt plugged in.

    Drain the hot and cold thoroughly, I also take the filter out the onboard pump, leave all taps open and that's it. Never had any issue with caravan or battery. First trip out in February mind, bed is as cold as a slab of butchers marble!

  • lornalou1
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    edited August 2019 #13

    solution to bed is an electric blanket put on a couple of hours before use. airs out the bed. cozy. laughing

  • bandgirl
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    edited August 2019 #14

    Our caravan is in a storage compound on a local site, so never plugged in or heated during the winter.  Our present van has a solar panel which keeps the battery topped up.  Never had any problems with either of our vans.

  • heddlo
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    edited August 2019 #15

    We don’t heat ours during winter as it’s in storage.  Just throughly drain down water system.  Alde heating system has its own antifreeze so just leave that.  We take out some seat cushions and carpet.  We do have a fitted winter cover to keep it clean and dry, and a solar panel to keep the battery charged. This has worked well for us for many years now.  It seems a waste of power to heat an unused caravan.

  • paul56
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    edited August 2019 #16

    I also lift our van up onto axle stands during the winter (as it doesn't get used) to take the pressure off one part of the tyres and extend life. Never heated it just lifted cushions etc to allow air circulation.

  • Lambdrover
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    edited August 2019 #17

    Great help. Thanks everyone for all the comments.

     

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  • EasyT
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    edited October 2019 #20

    I do the same DD. I shall pop out later and put Alde on to 5C 

  • young thomas
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    edited October 2019 #21

    Alan, i thought caravanners drained their water system (hot and cold) on leaving site, even in summer, as they are apprehensive about carrying 10kg of water in the boiler or is this not the case?

     

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2019 #22

    More fake news spread by motor caravan users to make out the trail of water left on sites was not their waste discharging,wink

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2019 #23

    We drop the hot water tank but don't always blow out the pipes for winter. Normally we have few nights likely to be a problem and so the Alde will not get much use but the position of the pipes in sub zero weather is such as to protect system. 

     

  • young thomas
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    edited October 2019 #24

    what?

    i asked a perfectly sensible question re winter draining (of the engine driverwink) and you replied with some oily twaddle, as usual..

    ive read many times of caravanners not wanting to carry the extra weight, especially as some boilers are at the rear and may cause 'pendulum" issues.

    even caravans with fresh water tanks probably wont carry that water around with them for the above (and payload) reasons.

    no one mentioned dumping grey waste (or whatever you were wittering on about) so ill await Alans response....as im interested in what he has to say, not you and your perpetually skewed agendaundecided

    edit: thanks Alan, as I suspectedsmile

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  • young thomas
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    edited October 2019 #27

    thanks, David..

    my point to Alan was re: his response to DD's post where he said 'he did the same', but in fact DD doesnt drain down and uses the Alde system to avoid a freezing situation.

    whereas Alan does 'drop the hot water tank' and would be unlikely to have a cold water system operative either.

    although Alan does set the heating to 5 deg....some warer still lying in pipework?

    Like DD, i dont drain down (unless a hugely unusually long period of deep frost is forecast)...we actually had a (slight) frost last night, lovely clear skies yesterday, but all gone by breakfast time.

    priming the water system every time you arrive on site is just another task i dont wish to carry out.

    the weather we get here is unlikely to cause any 'water' issues....although heating set to 5 degwink (it will rarely kick in).

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2019 #28

    So, don’t take the bait - simple. 👍🏻

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  • JVB66
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    edited October 2019 #30

    Oh dearcool

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2019 #31

    coollaughingsmilelaughingsurprised  but you did ,again but then a sense of humour is not allowedcool