Vettel - unhappy
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I think so, watched a few ex professional F1 drivers, button, brundle, chandock, Herbert etc and they all agreed that having gone onto the grass he then suffered 2 or 3 snaps of oversteer hence his steering inputs. They all think the penalty was harsh
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I dont think so.
Vettel is clearly not the driver he once was, too many mistakes last season and doing the same this season.
As for all his protestation about he had nowhere else to go, how about staying on the track! If he had then the penalty wouldn’t have happen. Whether or not Hamilton would have got past, well we’ll never know, or once he went on the grass he could (should) have took his foot off the go pedal and slowed down enough to regain control in a safe manor.
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perhaps they could bring in a new penalty ,where points were taken off the driver on their finishing position ,that way it would not affect the racing at the time
I think the penalty was harsh , but it was the way that Vettel behaved after the race which I think did him more harm
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I am no Ferrari fan but even I thought it was a bit harsh. Mind you probably better to have finished second than crashing into the wall which might have happened!!! I think the trouble with Vettel is that when he was at Red Bull he had an easy time. At the time the Red Bull car was the best on the grid by a large margin and he was clearly the favoured son in that team. He would have gone to Ferrari with great expectations of him and almost impossible pressure and as yet he and the team have not delivered. I know Lewis can whing a bit but I wonder if he can deal with adversity easier than Sebastian?
David
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I think the nature of the penalty was harsh. Calling it an unsafe re-entry onto the track, when he was in in affect a passenger and giving a 5 second penalty was out of proportion. A better way of dealing with it would have been to declare that he obtained an unfair advantage and for him to have been told to let Hamilton past. He would then of only had to overtake Hamilton to secure first place, not get 5 seconds clear.
What was out of proportion was the way he dealt with the incident. Given that kids of all ages would have been watching, very unprofessional. I am amazed that so far there seem to have been no additional sanctions.
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Apparently Ferrari didn't tell Le Clerc that his team mate had a penalty! Had they he could have made up enough time to come second!!!
David
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I missed the live Canadian GP but had recorded it , I sat & watched it Monday..... I'm a avid fan of all types of motor racing & have been to Silverstone many many times.
Vettel knew exactly what he was doing.... he made the mistake.. he blocked Hamilton.... simple.
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A very good article by Jolyon Palmer on the BBC website about this. Worth a read.
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+1 excellent article and to the point explanation. 👍
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Interesting article. However, I think I'll go with Martin Brundles and Jenson Buttons 464 F1 races of experience, rather than Jolyon Palmers 35.
However, whoever you side with, I don't think there is much dispute that the decision ruined an exiting finish. Once the penalty was awarded there was little incentive for Lewis to try that hard getting past. Particular since he is likely to have been made aware of the mood Seb was in.
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This is the second time at the Canadian GP whee Vettel was leading and whilst under pressure, made a mistake which cost him the race.
The last couple of seasons have also shown his inconsistancies. I think he was upset because once again, his concentration let him down.
Apart from that incident, for me, another tedious watch.
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He could have gone in to the corner a little slower, kept to the track and kept control of his car. If he had done so he would not have received the penalty for returning to the track in an unsafe manner. It is very unlikely that he would have been overtaken on that part of the circuit.
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Evening
As he has done last season, Vettel has buckled under pressure. It's obvious if he'd approached turn four at the right speed Lewis would have had him. Of course he had nowhere to go when on the grass but a little forethought would have prevented his mistake. Not sure if the penalty fitted the crime as he drove an exceptional race and deserved the win but the stewards decision is final. The moving posts in parc ferme was entertaining but a bit childish, fair play and respect to Lewis though when he pulled Seb onto the no.1 podium.
There's a lot of psychology now in this sport and judging by this and last seasons mistakes, and the way Ferrari have made major errors in strategy I think it'll be no surprise if the silver arrows and their current champion driver will take this seasons crown again
JK
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Penalties given out for racing each other at top speed when the cars are on the ragged edge will ruin motorsport.
Having photographed many races at close quarters, I can assure you that on the television it is not possible to see how close to the edge these drivers are traveling. The cars look to be stable and under control at all times, until they are not, and it amazes me how any driver can keep them on the track for 70 laps. Cornering looks like a straight forward sweep on the TV, but really close up you can see the cars twitch all around the corner looking more like dozens of little flicks, and to do this lap after lap is staggering skill.
The 5 seconds was totally unjustified when compared to the same penalty dished out to Max Verstappen in the last race for an unsafe release in the pits, which was avoidable, and damaged the tyre of Bottas car, but more importantly unacceptable risk to other pit crews and marshalls.
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Apparently Ferrari will not go ahead with their appeal. They seem to be trying a different tack, by trying to overturn the penalty via a right to review according to the BBC website.
David
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So,
The right to review was thrown out as no new evidence was offered. Whether it makes close wheel to wheel racing boring, these days safety is paramount.
Let's see if Seb continues to break under pressure.
Jk
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No and Yes definitely.
Good win for Lewis today, total control of the race and to finish 16 seconds ahead of Bottas then go for fastest lap at the end to be beaten to it by Vettel on new soft tyres by 200ths of a second? Just shows what the Mercedes had in hand.
It's a different world from the days of Hunt, Mansell and my favourite Senna (RIP) but Lewis has a talent, hunger and passion that will take some beating for as long as he wears the number 44
JK
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Formula 1 must be the most boring and predictable motor sport today IMHO. Thank goodness for fast forward on the recorded program. Even Hamilton, although known for his whinging, agrees but says not to blame the drivers but the FIA and other organising bodies for their mismanagement. No major changes envisaged until 2021 apparently. He stated although Vettel suffered a penalty this was his most enjoyable and entertaining race to date chasing him down.
The camera crews are at least spending less time on the first 5 positions and concentrating more time on the mid field battles. What always amuses me most is the effort put in before the race by the commentators to give all the reasons why it will be a really exciting and interesting race to watch, which it never is.
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