Travelling Europe for c 6 months.. Payload query
I am looking at purchasing my first MH to travel Europe for c 6 months ... will also have say a vespa/ scooter on the back....
trying to work out what would be sufficient payload.... in order to purchase the right MH??
seems single axle MH are c 350kgs but tag axle are c 500kg.. and unsure if 350 kg enough ??
eg: scooters are c 150kg, passenger 65 kg, water etc....
Advice most welcome...
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I have a 6M Marquis Majestic which I had replated to 3500. Fully loaded with two E-bikes @20Kg each in the garage, 75% fuel, full fresh water, OH ( weight subject to official secrets act) plus the usual stuff for a months holiday, we have 300Kg spare capacity on the back axle and 130Kg. on the front.
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Hi have a look at swift 664 escape 3500kg but a pay load 650kg we carry a moped on a rack just had mot then down to weight bridge 3240 kg . With moped on .no water carried .but fill water at site and empty when leaving can't see point carrying extra weight about .been taking kit out today . That's not used another 35 kgs saved .wife only 45kg with speed limits in France down to 30and 20 kilometres hr in towns and villages moped plenty quick enough
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Think you need to do some research on Google. MHs come in alsorts of sizes with many different payloads. A lot depends on wether you have a C1 license or not. If you do then a Tag Axle will give you plenty of payload. Far more than you will ever fill. Our Laika is plated at 4250 and we have ample space and a large garage for storage. If you are going for 6 months then you are going to need plenty of storage. We use plastic boxes that stack in the garage. If you are thinking of adding a scooter on the back you will have to find some way of carrying it.
350kg payload is useless. You need to be looking at 700kg + especially if you want a scooter as well.
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Q4 has a good point....take a payload of 500kg, sounds a lot?
however, this wont include the passenger (nominal 75kg), a tank of water (100kg)..books, bedding, BBQ, awning, scooter, tools, kitchen cutlery and crockery, electrical item, Chargers, food etc, etc...all the above will eat that 500kg in a trice.
many who use MHs do like to have water with them when travelling, after all, we may want to camp somewhere there won't be a water supply (aire or beachside location).
..but the issue with a 3500kg MH will always be the rear axle limit...if you have a scooter, not in a garage but on a rear rack, this will add more load to the rear axle than the weight of the scooter itself...
obviously, if you don't have the license groups you can't go larger, but if possible go for a van on the 'heavy' (4250kg) chassis as you will have 400kg more capacity (2400kg v 2000kg) on the rear axle over the light 3.5t version.
we travel extensively in Europe for three months or so at a time and have 3.5t van with a garage and carry two electric bikes, fully loaded we have just under 100kg spare....some taken up with wine on return trip..but if we were to change to a scooter this might be too much although we have 180kg spare on the rear
Rear axle 1820kg (max 2000)
Front axle 1600kg (max 1850)
Gross 3420 kg (max 3500)so it can be done with a well balanced van.
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Perhaps the information on this web site will help you work out what is best to meet your requirementpee
peedee
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while Peedee"s link will give you some ide about weights and their effect on axles, MHs of the same model can vary in their unladen state, upto +/-5%..
at at the end of the day, there's no real substitute for putting a MH on a weighbridge and getting an exact reading.
as long as the state of the vehicle is known, any state (loaded, e,pty, part loaded) will do to arrive at the remaining capacity of each axle and the overall maximum mass.
its perfectly possible (probable, in fact) that a 3.5t van will breach the 20kg rear axle loading well before the overall maximum of 3.5t is reached.
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You'll need every spare KG to keep within weight.
I suggest leave wife at home!
No need to thank me for this advise...just send chocolate....
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my above post should have read...
"its perfectly possible (probable, in fact) that a 3.5t van will breach the 2000kg rear axle loading well before the overall maximum of 3.5t is reached."
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