Discovery Sport Rear Disc Corrosion

PhillW2672
PhillW2672 Forum Participant Posts: 2
edited February 2019 in Towcars & Towing #1

Has anyone else experienced problems with rear disc corrosion on Discovery Sport or Evoque models? I bought a new Sport in Feb 2017 and took it for its first service (2years) last week to discover it needed new rear discs. I was told this was not covered under the warranty and I am currently in a dispute  about this. As I'd only done 14,000 miles from new, I thought this odd. Land Rover were not helpful and the Club knew of no problem. However, I researched this over the weekend and found a Land Rover Bulletin (LTB00990V2) listing the Evoques and Sports with a potential problem. Have given the Club the reference for this document should anyone be concerned.  I had no noise or problem with the car and no message notification but at the service inspection, the pads were found to be down to the metal and the discs heavily corroded. I am concerned that I, and possibly others, could have been driving with an unknown brake problem. 

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  • Takethedogalong
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    edited February 2019 #2

    Electronic Parking brake issue?

  • HandPete
    HandPete Forum Participant Posts: 2
    edited February 2019 #3

    Our 2017 discovery sport suffered the same problem at 13,000 miles. Discs and pads were replaced under warranty with no problems at the local LR dealership.

     

  • lornalou1
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    edited February 2019 #4

    perhaps you need to ignore the service interval and get it done every 12 months and they may have picked up on this. if its a diesel then a lot of LR owners change the oil every 6 months due to DPF problems and contaminated engine oil.

  • flatcoat
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    edited February 2019 #5

    You are more likely to get some answers on a Disco sport specific forum.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited February 2019 #6

    There are indeed lots of answers to questions on Disco forums.........surprised

  • Rufs
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    edited February 2019 #7

    discoveries are renowed for rust. Lived in Scotland in an off road location, had an old style discovery, when the Mot examiner said it had a serious rust problem underneath and needed a weld job I got rid, 4 years old, and dont forget the gear box oil, old model used to be every 2 years or 24k miles. Great in off road and snow conditions, and great at towing but regularly comes bottom or near bottom in the Which reliability chart. 

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited February 2019 #8

    Newer LR models have redefined the term “off road”. Too many end up being recovered or in dock being repaired, hence, “off road”.

     

  • DougCulross
    DougCulross Forum Participant Posts: 8
    edited February 2019 #9

    I have a Discovery Sport Se Tech which I took delivery of in October 2015. I had to replace the rear discs and brake shoes after 18 months and around 11000 miles. I was told by the service manager that I had not used the car enough and was the reason for the problem! Contacted customer services at the factory who instructed the garage to replace the parts at no cost to me. Satnav also was unreliable, often going off route and was towed back from York Rowantree site when exhaust filter failed. Overall this car was frequently back to the garage and consequently, although this is my ninth Landrover, it will be my last.

  • kentman
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    edited February 2019 #10

    A friend had to have discs replaced at a low mileage due to rust. Was done under warranty. Mine 3 years old and 25k miles has been ok so far (famous last words)

  • PhillW2672
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    edited February 2019 #11

    Thanks for all the responses. Apparently, the LTB given in my earlier post has been up-dated. Haven't got a copy but the Dealer says I can view it. I guess the best advice is to have the brake pads checked regularly. I did and was surprised to find that 6mm in June 2018 went to zero by the time of the service on 13/02/19. It was this wear on the pads that scarred the discs, something to do with the light/heavy load settings, although I always adjust these for towing and non-towing. Have decided to go no longer than 3 months without having the pads checked.

     

  • ocsid
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    edited February 2019 #12

    The other Discovery models the 3 & 4 I thought featured a pad wear dash warning?

    Seems remiss the Sport apparently has not this feature, where evidently through the pad material choice, wear is very high.

  • lornalou1
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    edited February 2019 #13

     never heard of anybody adjusting the load settings on their brakes as most just hitch up and drive to site and why would you anyway. undecided

  • Metheven
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    edited February 2019 #14

    Sport does have wear indicators on all four wheels

  • Metheven
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    edited February 2019 #15

    I think the OP is confused on the 'settings', the cause is the front to rear brake pressure balance, it prevents the oxidisation on the rear disc surfaces from fully cleaning up on brake application as should happen on all cars. The rust gets worse and the pads get scored and everything goes to pot.

    The pressure balance needs re calibrating.

  • ocsid
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    edited February 2019 #16

    So, as the OP stated the pads were down to the metal this surely indicates the wear warning system had failed and taken out the discs?

    In a two year old vehicle, whilst brake wear would not be a warranty backed item, the failure of the "wear indication system" surely must be, plus its direct consequences?

  • Metheven
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    edited February 2019 #17

    LTB00990V2 is a warranty job anyway due to wrong front/rear brake pressures and as you say failure of pad warning would be under warranty also.

    I stated a fact in answer to your post that all four brakes have wear sensors.

  • lornalou1
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    edited February 2019 #18

    do vehicles still have the break balance thingy what with ABS systems.

  • Metheven
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    edited February 2019 #19

    My limited knowledge says yes, there is still a proportional percentage between front and rear with the fronts having the greater braking, the ABS still controls that percentage though.

    Does that make sense frownlaughing

    By the way, the LTB00990V2 document is where I took the explanation from regarding the rust, it's there to be read online.

  • lornalou1
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    edited February 2019 #20

    Thanks meth, I was asking as years ago the split was fixed at about 60/40 front/back but with cars now with huge front discs and abs I thought it might have been scrapped.

  • MisterBarnOwl
    MisterBarnOwl Forum Participant Posts: 2
    edited March 2019 #21

    Hi Phil,

    Thanks for the notification about the possibility of rusty rear brake discs on a Land Rover Discovery Sport.

    I went to see my local Land Rover dealer and told him about the brake pads and light rusty discs on my Discovery Sport (Sept 17 with 9000 miles on the clock). I had no arguments from them and they agreed to replace the lot at no extra cost.

    I think it is down to the dealership and their attitude to customers in general.

    I did read somewhere that unless the customer raises the problem with the dealership, nothing is done and you could be caught out.

    See you next year Phil

    Ian

  • richardandros
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    edited March 2019 #22

    I think there's another aspect to this saga.  I've just had to have new discs and pads on the front of my 2015 Touareg - at 35k miles, which is well before I normally have to have even the pads changed.  It turns out that the front brake calipers had stuck, the inside pads had not been operating properly and the inside of the discs had started to corrode.

    Until this year, the car had been on a main-dealer service plan ('free' when I bought the car).  This year, it went to my tried and trusted local garage (Bosch service centre), to whom it was immediately apparent that the brakes had never been touched during the past three services - indeed the wheels had probably never been off.

    I have never been a fan of the service provided by main dealers and this evidence just tends to confirm that most do the absolute minimum they can get away with.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited March 2019 #23

    They don't call them 'stealer's for nothing ... innocent 

     

     

    (that applies to all flavours of dealer)

  • lornalou1
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    edited March 2019 #24

    Just had my Jeep serviced at Arnold Clark and at least they send you a video clip of the car up in air with wheels off and show the discs and pads close-up to show you the wear and condition. If only all dealers did this, even caravan dealers during service.

  • kentman
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  • kentman
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    edited March 2019 #26

    I have my Jaguar XK8 serviced at Guy Salmon in Maidstone and they do this

  • Metheven
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    edited March 2019 #27

    If the OP gets it serviced at the dealers which seems the case, then he also should get a video with wheels off and zoomed in video of each wheel disc and pad.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited March 2019 #28

    A video of your car on the service ramp is pretty common these days. Even Citroen do if when SWMBOs C3 goes in.

  • Bikeit
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    edited July 2020 #29

    Yes there is an issue with the Discovery Sport rear brakes, I have a low mileage 18 plate with deeply pitted rear disc’s, the vehicle is on a JLR service plan it went into the local dealer in September 19 for Adblue I raised the issue then, but was advised to leave them until it’s first service following this and due to the lock down I was unable to take the car into the dealership, it finally went in 2nd June 2020 for its first service they referred me to the JLR technical warranty team who said there was no problem just ware and tear, these are pitted not wear and tear, I have wrote to the CEO of JLR his PA rang me that day Tuesday 30 June, and following a warranty meeting she rang back a couple of days later saying they can’t do any warranty or good will on a low mileage 40K vehicle even though JLR have issued a bulletin LBT00990V2 which I understand could have been an instruction to dealers to replace under warranty. I am really disappointed with the replies from JLR were planed to replaced the Discovery and my wife’s Volvo early 2021 With a New Defender and an Evoque or Discovery Sport following this I don’t really want to go that way, it might be another Volvo and perhaps an Ineos as they might be available late 2021. I still have my Defender 90 a proper Landrover, interestingly  the dealership emailed today with a special day offering several K off new cars, Why would I want to buy one now!

  • Phishing
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    edited July 2020 #30

    I have a Korean car and have never had discs or pads replaced but then I usually sell them at about 60k miles. 

    I adore LR products, the new Defender is stunning, alas I will never own one, I have enough hobbies.

  • Rufs
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    edited July 2020 #31

    lots of folk swear by the Discovery, but for my money "the more something changes the more it remains the same" 5year old Discovery that we brought down from Scotland when we moved south, 60k miles, new gear box, transfer box, fitted new clutch whilst all this was out, serious weld job to sub frame at rear due to rust, which when i complained Guy Salmon manager said rust was a result of living in Scotland as they use too much salt on roads, he said "we see this all the time" when i said i thought they were built on railway sleepers he said "and railway sleepers rust"  .

    Now have Kia Sorento going in for a 7 year warranty service in August, little wonder they can give 7 year warranty, all that has been replaced under warranty was the rear view camera, 60K miles on clock and they advised at last svc that front discs would need to be replaced, rear they said would be ok for another 20k but will probably have done as plan to keep the car.