Politically incorrect Christmas adverts

Oneputt
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edited November 2018 in General Chat #1

This years Iceland Christmas has been banned as it is thought to be too political 

Personally I think it’s spot on

https://metro.co.uk/2018/11/09/banning-icelands-palm-oil-advert-censors-the-reality-of-what-we-are-doing-to-the-rainforest-8122491/

 

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  • ValDa
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    edited November 2018 #3

    Wouldn't it be good, if EVERY year, we made no mention of Christmas, shops didn't display Christmas goods, or people buy and wrap presents, until after Remembrance Day!

    I haven't watched the Iceland advert yet, but perhaps it will actually get more notice just because it's been banned - after all how many people knew that Iceland were the first supermarket to remove palm oil from all their own brands.  Support them by 'sharing' their advert so more people can get to see it (and perhaps change your shopping habits to Iceland - who do have some really good things on sale).

     

     

  • Cornersteady
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    edited November 2018 #4

    Across the pond, Christmas isn't mentioned till after Thanksgiving.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited November 2018 #5

     It is a well put together, well written advert, but... what has it to do with Christmas?

  • bill
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    edited November 2018 #6

    First class advert and message !!

  • huskydog
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    edited November 2018 #7

    The best way to get something talked about is to get it banned , so maybe Iceland knew what they were doing !!!

  • Extugger
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    edited November 2018 #8

    Very clever marketing on Iceland's behalf to put together (with Greenpeace) an advert which is very topical (not sure about Christmas though?) Now it's been banned, it will have at least double the impact than previously expected.

  • Kennine
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    edited November 2018 #9

    The Iceland advert is a good one, a much better advert than the overtly  "Politically Correct"   male twerking Money Supermarket advert.. 

    wink

  • Metheven
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    edited November 2018 #10

     Excellent advert, but lets ban Xmas.

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  • Navigateur
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    edited November 2018 #12

    There is only 12 days of Christmas

    So why are there 24 doors in an Advent Calendar?

  • Cornersteady
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    edited November 2018 #13

    you being serious?

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited November 2018 #14

    Regardless of the message, which might be spot on, there are rules that the Advertising Standards Authority have to follow otherwise less edifying messages start to appear in all manner of advertisements. If I were to put my cynical hat on I am sure Iceland were well aware that their advertisement would not meet the required standard but realised that the banning of the ad would give them a lot of (positive?) publicity? 

    As to Christmas stock not being put on sale until after Remembrance Day that would be completely silly. There are currently tens of thousands of retail jobs at risk and such a course of action would just make that a whole lot worse! I think most people can make the distinction between an act of remembrance and Christmas shopping. 

    David

  • jennyc
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    edited November 2018 #15

    Maybe we should make hay while the sun shines with high street Christmas shopping. With large high street stores closing at an ever increasing rate, it can’t be many years before the decorations fizzle down to minor shop displays set amongst the empty shells of department stores. Decorative wreaths on Google and Amazon pages just don’t have the same buzz. On a positive note, online shopping reduces traffic along with its pollution. And food for thought - how are councils going to replace lost council tax revenues and car park charges?

    As many have posted, Iceland are on course for viral sharing of their advert. I bet that John Lewis doesn’t match that.

  • byron
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    edited November 2018 #16

    Look up Christmas creep on WIKI, many stores start selling Christmas goods on October 1, I have seen related goods on sale in USA in October

  • mickysf
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    edited November 2018 #17

    As the marketing folk say, if their advertising work gets noticed, gets attention, gets talked about then it's doing its job. Banning it I'd bet even promotes the message further!

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited November 2018 #18

    It’s all about this Guy👍🏻😊, as soon as we hit Autumn He’s good to go in my book. No such thing as too much-St Nicholas, Santa Claus, Kris Kringle, Papa Noel, Pelznickel, Sinter Klaas👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • Metheven
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    edited November 2018 #19

    Have a renaming like the Caravan Club, lets call it 'Credit Card' day or 'Debt Day'. Maybe pen a new carol titled 'I want I want I want' dedicated to the children who have become retail brand snobs, and turn their nose up at the same thing but minus the logo.

    This is what is important at Xmas and many spend the next year paying off those debts, for those clothes now gone out of fashion and those toys thrown in a forgotten corner somewhere.

     Image result for credit card

     Merry Xmas laughing

     

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited November 2018 #20

    Fair point, but to that I’d say-‘just say no’(with thanks to the anti Drug ads of yesteryear👍🏻) it ain’t too hard🤔. Children are moulded into what Parents want/allow☹️

  • JohnM20
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    edited November 2018 #21

    Went through our local Intu shopping centre earlier in the week and noticed a wall with a big array of poppies on it. Went through again yesterday and all the poppies had completely gone but there was more Christmas decorations up. Very disrespectful in my opinion. Couldn't they have waited until at least after today?

  • redface
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    edited November 2018 #22

    'On a positive note, online shopping reduces traffic along with its pollution.'

    Sorry Jenny but I disagree with you on that, after all whilst you and I may not go down to the shops in our cars the vans are now trundling up and down our roads instead!

  • jennyc
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    edited November 2018 #23

    I don’t mind you disagreeing Redface, but research refutes your beliefs.

    This is an extract from a very comprehensive 68 page report on E-commerce and its growing partner M-commerce (from mobile devices).if you fancy a long technical read, find 

    https://www.racfoundation.org/wpcontent/uploads/2017/11/The_Implications_of_Internet_Shopping_Growth_on_the_Van_Fleet_and_Traffic_Activity_Braithwaite_May_17.pdf Thanks 

    “• Perhaps surprisingly, online e-commerce has probably contributed to a modest reduction in overall traffic; parcel delivery vans contribution to congestion is substantially exaggerated.”

    You may be relieved to learn that I was researching something quite unrelated when I found the statement.

    I suppose that one van carrying many parcels has to be compared to the environmental benefits of bus travel.

     

  • brue
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    edited November 2018 #24

    The Iceland message, which was banned for being political was in the "say no" to Palm Oil camp. It's possible to do this by reading ingredient lists on products. Palm Oil seems to have crept into so many things, we managed without it previously but it's being foisted on us.

    LINK to further Iceland info. concerning the environment.

  • ValDa
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    edited November 2018 #25

    Palm oil is not only environmentally destructive but working practices on the plantations are very dubious too.  Amnesty International have long been campaigning that even 'sustainable palm oil' is anything but and uses cheap and 'slave' labour!  Avoid it if you can, and if enough of us do, then the manufacturers may just get the idea that we're no longer willing to accept it as a cheaper alternative  to other oils and fats.

    There are some big-brand names which use palm oil - so you can avoid it by not buying Magnum ice-cream, Colgate toothpaste, Dove cosmetics, Knorr soup, KitKat, Pantene shampoo, Ariel, and Pot Noodle.  It's in a lot of other products too - check on the ingredients list if you want to avoid it.

     

  • ChemicalJasper
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    edited November 2018 #26

    I guess it depends on what you are thinking about when you consider internet shopping.

    For the likes of amazon etc., where delivery vans run optimised routes from main distribution centres, this must reduce average cost per mile of items delivered and reduce individual car journeys.

    However, for the likes of Tesco for example, where routings are not so optimised, as they are dictated by the customer, booking for a certain time slot, I imaging this could be less efficient running a big van all over the place, that going to the shop yourself?!

     

  • mickysf
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    edited November 2018 #27

    I still cannot fathom why the ad was banned. I also fail to see what on earth it has to do with Christmas. Please someone enlighten me.

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  • mickysf
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    edited November 2018 #29

    Sad, certainly but even more, sinister in that the motive and the faceless behind the banning seek to hide the truth. Fact is, like the tobacco & petroleum industries, they are powerful enough to force censorship and heap fake news on the masses to protect their own interests.

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  • brue
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    edited November 2018 #31

    The Say No to Palm Oil ad ban is a very suspicious form of political manoeuvring and a great change from the usual overtly commercial and sickly Christmas selling spree. However if you read the previous link to Iceland's environment policy they are attempting to eradicate palm oil from their products and have a time frame for this. I don't use Iceland,  there is no shop near me, but they are using a green sticker on products that are palm oil free. I've noticed in some of our locally made pies that palm oil has crept in to the pastry, when did we ever need palm oil for good pastry?