Scotland from Kent

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edited October 2018 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

hi all next year I am thinking of doing a tour of Scotland from Kent, I  have driven to Edinburgh in one go and found It to much. I would like to take in Edinburgh once more plus fort William ,inverness , john of groats and back down again via Glasgow and home stopping  again. how long would someone plan to take ? I was thinking of two weeks or is that rushing it. Dave

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2018 #2

    Yep, that’s rushing it for such a huge area where motorways/dual carriageways don’t exist for the large part.

    I’d say 2 weeks will let you do the places you mention but I’d add in several days between Kent and Edinburgh and the same on the return journey. You will likely need more stops in Scotland as well.

  • huskydog
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    edited October 2018 #3

    We too are looking at Fort William next year but looking at a night stop over at Hawes , last year we we to Hawes and it took us 7 hours and that was in a motorhome, don't try to bite off too much 

  • magnet
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    edited October 2018 #4

    I was thinking of stopping at Knaresborough on the way up then on to Edinburgh but after that I get lost . time wise 3 days in Knaresborough and Edinburgh  perhaps I should be think of stopping  the same sort of time in the places I want to visit,

  • Cornersteady
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    edited October 2018 #5

    careful of the dreaded midges there (Fort William that is).

  • magnet
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    edited October 2018 #6

    what time of year would be best, would you book sites before hand or travel and hope  club sites not book 

  • ABM
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    edited October 2018 #7

    I'd  never  give  advice  on  sites  for  other folks,  Magnet.  I  always  book  for  myself  'cos  I  know  where  I  want  to  be  and  want  to  see.  The  only  things  I  will  say  are  :--

    Avoid  the  A82  past  Loch  Lomond  while  you  are  towing  !!  It  can  be  rather  hairy  at  times  with  the  big  tourist  coaches  &  lorries.

    Midgie  time  is  mainly  WEST COAST,  Near  Trees  And  Water  --  the  female  midgie  likes  her  meat  BLOODY  !!

    Several  deterents exist  Jungle  Formula,  Smidge  That  Midge,  Avon  Skin  So  Soft ( Yes  Really laughing ) but  prime  midgie  time  is  from  mid/late  may  to  September  --  out  side  those  times  no problems.  Some  folks  walk  round  in  beach  wear  and  never  get  nibbled,  others  could  wear  armoured space suits  &  still  get  eaten  alive  --- 'tis  life  in  the  north  I'm  afraid.

    Now  thats  the  doom  n gloom,  so  please  remember  Scotland  is  a  big  country  an  sparsley  populated  in  comparison.  Its  for  that  reason  many  maps  use  a  different  scale  watch  out  for  that.

    All  things  said  I  take  approximately  3  to  3.5  weeks  there  annually  so  it  aint  all  bad  winkcool

  • magnet
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    edited October 2018 #8

    thank you for the advice ABM .I just want to enjoy Scotland and not rush to much, so much to see . we had a week in Edinburgh and still did not see it all . I am now think 3 weeks minimum 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2018 #9

    Good advice from ABM.

    The NC500 has made the north of Scotland very popular and booking at peak times I would say is a must. 

    If time is limited, why not restrict yourself to one area and explore it in greater depth rather than trying to cram a lot into one holiday? Scotland is huge with much to offer.

    Over the years we've covered most of it from The Borders and Dumfries & Galloway to Aberdeenshire, the Highlands, the far north and Orkney, Shetland and the Outer Hebrides. I’ll happily make suggestions and share my experiences, Magnet, but I think you need to come up with a prospective route and a few sites first otherwise it’s a bit "how long is a piece of string."

  • paul56
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    edited October 2018 #10

    A couple of years ago we went to Scotland in June from South Yorks.  We broke the trip into Northumberland around Bamburgh/Lindisfarne for 4 nights, Edinburgh for a week, Trossachs for a couple of nights and then over to Oban on the west coast for another week (of rain!) before returning via the Lakes. There was plenty to see and do in that time. I would suggest you limit yourselves to set areas. Enjoy.

     

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2018 #11

    When I was working a Scottish trip would be at least 3 weeks. Now probably at least 6. 

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited October 2018 #12

    Have to agree. Once you get up into Northumberland there are no motorways and the going gets slower but more beautiful. Why not take three weeks and do the East Coast, such a lot to see and do including Edinburgh, Kingdom of Fife,  etc..... Depends on what you are interested in, but every road in Scotland goes around either a Loch or a Mountain, and it can take longer than you think between places.smile

    Take the midges seriously, it's a place I never go at midge time!

  • huskydog
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    edited October 2018 #13

    we were looking at Hawes ,on to Bunree down to Garlieston and back to Hawes ,then home ,over a two week trip , that's the plan cool 

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2018 #14

    The midges have never troubled me. I have seen a number doing the Scottish West Coast Neck Slapping Dance though. 

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited October 2018 #15

    Easier in a MH HD, I think the OP is towing. You're crossing coasts in England as well. We have done Yellowcraig and across to Oban a few times. It can be a hell of a pull around all the lochs and mountains, lovely, but a long drive. 

    Yours sounds a nice tour. We have seen Bunree, but never stayed, preferred North Ledaig Site. Garlieston is nice, quiet. We are off to Hawes for first time in December, we know the village, but haven't stayed on site before.

    We towed from North Ledaig down to Carradale one Autumn. A very long tow. We had to stop and move cows off road on Kintyre a couple of times, and dodge low flying deer! Carradale to home, without using ferries is a thirteen hour drive for us, with a couple of stops for dog walking and something to eat. 

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2018 #16

    Bunree to Garlieston. A bit too long a drive for me for just a short stop. But then I have more free time Husky. I would not want to use same site as a stop on the way up as on the way down. But we are all different my friend

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2018 #17

    Home to Moffat - about 500 miles - is doable for us in the MH with an overnight stop, that assumes we can do 70mph most of the way. Towing the caravan took much longer.

    Inverness to Dunnet Bay has now become a much easier trip whereas when towing it was a long slow haul even though it’s not a huge distance. Berriedale Braes has much to answer for.😀

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2018 #18

    4 hours driving is about my limit TW. The pain killers won't last that long wink

  • brue
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    edited October 2018 #19

    Edinburgh first? Then straight up the A9 to Inverness, about three hours plus, another two and a half plus to John O Groats from Inverness (the plus is for holdups, rest breaks etc.) Quite a long haul down to Fort William depending on the route, maybe four hours, then a couple of hours or more to Glasgow.

    A stop over from Kent, north and south leaves 12 days minus another four days travelling so that's eight days left to see the various areas, not much time but doable if you don't intend returning for a few years. But if you do intend to return I'd split the visit. Perhaps Edinburgh and the far north this time, then Glasgow and the west coast another?

    People seem to take a "run" at Scotland as though they've got to do it in one go but I don't think they'd attempt the same in England or Wales or even Ireland considering how much they'd miss if they only allowed a couple of weeks. Anyway good luck with your plans and hope you have a great trip. smile

  • PATMAU
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    edited October 2018 #20

    Came back from a 5 week stay in Scotland, a couple of weeks ago.  Holiday cut short because of OH being taken ill, but that's another story.  We live west of London, and route wise we took the M40 onto the M42, stayed at Chapel Lane for one night, as we didn't leave home until late in the day.  Then onto M5 to M6.  Stayed the weekend at a site just outside Lancaster in Forest of Bowland.  Very pretty round there.  Up to Moffat C&CC site for 4 days.  This is a favourite site for us. August Bank Holiday we were at the BCC rally at Kelso, were we met up with friends.  After that, we went up to Glenmore, nr Aviemore, with friends who hadn't been to Scotland before, and this is a good base to travel around from, when you only have 10 days like they did. After they left for home, we stayed a few more days at Glenmore, then came to Perth to Scone C&CC site.  A week later we moved down to Lauder.  First we had Storm Ali, that put paid to the awning and then OH was taken ill and hospitalised, so we then came straight home when he was discharged, courtesy of the RAC. We will be back .

  • huskydog
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    edited October 2018 #21

    We stop at Hawes both ways ,so we can stop off at the cheese factory and stock up on cheese laughing

  • magnet
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    edited October 2018 #22

    thanks for all the advice, this is going to be harder than I thought . I got to do it by area that's for sure one thing the wife would like to see Emmerdale so that area will be first stop (which would be best club site) then Glasgow or Edinburgh . after that east or west side of Scotland. lots to think about .Dave 

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited October 2018 #23

    The Emmerdale set is based at Harewood House, so you need to look up your closest site. Tours of the set are strictly limited, and I think you have to book in advance. Link here

    https://www.emmerdalestudioexperience.co.uk/village-tour/

    Not my scene, haven't been but if you do some research, you can visit the original villages where it was first set. 

    Knaresborough might be closest Club Site. Not too far from A1.

  • Aspenshaw
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    edited October 2018 #24

    Two weeks is pushing it especially given you want to stop overnight on the way. If you avoid the peak midge period, I would base myself in one site on the east - around Fort William would be fine, and at a site on the west coast - Brora is great. Stonehaven is OK if your want to tour around Aberdeen. Use the car to tour around. This is how we used to 'tour' Scotland with our caravan.

    Unless the Scots has spent some money on their roads, expect rough surfaces which are tiring to drive - hence the better bet of leaving the caravan on site. Last year we gave up on our tour around Dumfries & Galloway because of the appalling road surfaces. I hear the NC500 is still bad in places.

     

  • Stewart P
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    edited October 2018 #25

    We toured Scotland for the first time this year from early May until the middle of June and took 6.5 weeks including a stopover on the way up from the midlands at Southport and stops at River Breamish and Durham Grange on the way back. We had wonderful weather and no midges! We chose to go up the west side and then back down the east partially because of the warnings about midges in the west as you come into the summer months. Edinburgh was a great place to visit and the site location is excellent so make sure you give yourself enough time there. We stopped at Strathclyde for one night to have a break in our journey as we didn't want to go into Glasgow and as the site is conveniently located just off the M74 it was perfect for what we wanted. We then moved on to Maragowan, Bunree, Morvic, (close for a visit to Skye),  a stopover at Culloden, Brora, Dunnet Bay, back to Culloden for 5 days, Silverbank and lastly Edinburgh. All the sites were excellent and the roads between generally good with light traffic. We missed the upper parts of the west coast because we were towing a caravan and were unsure of the more minor roads. I agree with the previous warning about the A82 past Loch Lomond, we took a day trip there from Maragowan and wouldn't have liked the narrow road, solid rock walls and barriers with the heavy traffic, lorries and coaches in places. Try to get up to Dunnet Bay if you can, the site is right next to a wonderful beach which is largely deserted and in early June it was light until 11.00pm! By booking just Caravan and Motorhome sites we were able to slightly modify our trip when it became apparent we had booked either to few, or too many days at some of the places as the trip progressed.

    Enjoy your holiday, we loved Scotland with it's diverse scenery, quiet roads and wonderful places to visit. We will be back soon!

  • flatcoat
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    edited October 2018 #26

    You can get all the way to Perth by motorway, yes really, they do now exist in Scotland. M1/M6/M74/M8/M9 and Bobs your auntie, Perth. They even have dual carriageways north of Perth too..... I tow our van from Hooderzfield to Inverness in a day (400 miles) including several p and t stops for passengers and dog. Personally I wouldn’t combine an Emmerdale visit with a Scotland trip. Why not plan a separate Yorkshire holiday? there really is more to the county than Emmerdale murders or whatever the writers portray. I worked on the very original Emmerdale Farm (at Leathley near Otley) set long before the Harewood built village set. As a half Scot/Yorkshireman I can vouch for both as being Gods own countries. I have holidayed in Scotland most years since 1959 - it is simply impossible to cover it all in 2weeks or so. Every part has its merits and probably needs half a dozen holidays to see the highlights.

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  • eurortraveller
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    edited October 2018 #28

    Scotland from Kent sounds a bit like Scotland from Cornwall.  For me it's a 550 mile drive to get to Spain but 650 miles to inverness.  Both are worth doing if you have the time. 

  • brue
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    edited October 2018 #29

    Magnet, I think you've got some ideas from here, your reply reflected that so why not consider combining your Emmerdale trip with a visit to the Scottish Borders, maybe head towards Berwick which is just on the border, then Melrose, Yellowcraigs etc and finish in Edinburgh. The Borders are a mini country of their own with hills and lochs to explore and when you get to Edinburgh you can see the sights at leisure. You'll get a taste of Scotland and hopefully want to go back for more. smilesmile

     

  • Oneputt
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    edited October 2018 #30

    Why not go as far as you feel comfortable in the time you have allowed yourself then turn round and start your journey home.  

  • Solobay
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    edited October 2018 #31

    It's all down to what floats your boat.

    I don't understand people who don't visit Melrose and the Borders but then again I don't get the attraction of Edinburgh, too many tourists and only 3 streets worth of looking at.

    Balbirnie is actually a better site to visit Edinburgh from plus has all the attractions of Kingdom of Fife(Falkland if you are an Outlander fan is a must). You can get a train from there right into middle of Edinburgh whereas Edinburgh site you need buses.

    Banchory, Brora all worth visiting.

    Above Inverness I always suggest a week in Kinlochewe and a week in Brora - sight seeing from there you can cover the whole area easily - John O Groats is like Lands End, a tourist trap with only thing worth of doing getting your photo taken.

    Garlieston is a must for me - true peace.

    So decide what you want to see visit first then plan around it