Leaking Gas. Am I Getting Weaker?

EasyT
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edited June 2018 in Caravan & Motorhome Chat #1

About 17 days into our last holiday one of our 3.9kg gas bottles ran out. For some reason I was initially surprised and then realised that we had used it for at least 80 days plus had run the fridge on gas for 7 or 8 days.

I changed the bottles over and got a replacement. About 4 days later on the next site I went to use the cooker and the gas was empty. So either we had a gas leak in the system or a bad connection to bottle. I replaced the bottle but decided that I would switch gas on for any cooking and off afterwards. It was salad day weather anyway for the remaining 8 days of the holiday and on the majority of days gas was not needed.

I tightened up the replacement bottle connection as hard as I reasonably could with the simple flat gas spanner of a type that had served me for over 35 years with no problem.

Later, after being at home for a while I bought a can of leak spray detector and sprayed all joints in the locker including pig tail. Yep! A very slow leak from the connection to the bottle. I used a heavier adjustable spanner. No really discernible movement but the leak had stopped. Left bottle open for a couple of weeks and gas OK. So am I getting weaker?

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  • Kennine
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    edited June 2018 #2

    Yes, -------I've heard most people do get weaker when extreme old age catches up with them. 

    Kwink

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  • NevChap
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    edited June 2018 #4

    It's well known that men have problems with their nuts as they get older.

  • EasyT
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    edited June 2018 #5

    The 3.9kw is a brass cone metal to metal DD'

     

  • EasyT
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    edited June 2018 #6

    Problems with my nuts was 25 years ago - hence only the one to worry about wink

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  • DSB
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    edited June 2018 #8

    I've stopped using the pigtails where you need a spanner.  I now use the ones with a wheel and you tighten it with your fingers.  I find there is a better seal on these, but I can see that the rubber seal would need replacing from time to time.

    David

  • hitchglitch
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    edited June 2018 #9

    I have had the same problem. The Calor metal to metal connection is susceptible in my opinion. Frankly, they are rubbish cylinders in several respects - weight, connection and visibility. Compare them with BP Gas (Gas Light) and some French bottles and you will see that the UK consumer is hard done by.

    My minimum requirement for a gas bottle would be - lightweight (lighter than Calorlite), transparent so that you can see the level and snap-on connector. Why on earth Calor can’t achive this I do not know, other than maybe they haven’t got the resources for R&D that the oil companies have.

    I imagine that the only thing that keeps Calor going is their distribution network and supply of large cylinders for domestic and industrial use where there is no grid supply. I hate to say it but the quicker they go out of business the better, even though we would probably end up with a French company replacement.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited June 2018 #10

    Alan 

    Perhaps you need to invest in one of theseNot only do they have the wheel mentioned by DSB but they will also detect a leak. All you do is turn off the cylinder valve and depending on how long the gauge takes to drop back to red indicates a leak. 

    David

  • DSB
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    edited June 2018 #11

    Not seen those David.  Looks like a good idea.  One for the shopping list....

    David

  • EmilysDad
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    edited June 2018 #12

    I wonder when they'll introduce the rubber faced connectors in industry 😞 I cant see them being fitted to oxygen & acetylene bottles any time soon 

  • mickysf
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    edited June 2018 #13

    I test for leaks in pipe work regularly. Easy to do too. When in storage just switch appliances off and then the bottle. Return to hob a few days later and if still under pressure jobs a good un! Crude I know but is reassuring.

  • flatcoat
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    edited June 2018 #14

    I didnt realise this was about gas bottles. I read the title thinking “Don't we all leak gas as we get older and weaker.....?”

  • EasyT
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    edited June 2018 #15

    Thanks to all those who have suggested hand wheel and rubber faced connectors. Something I might look into. No rush however as the present bottle should last our next 2 trips (11 weeks) before our Christmas stay at Southport. As I have a leak detector spray and a heavier spanner in front locker I shall see how it goes in future. If there are problems getting a seal I will probably go for the hand wheel and rubber faced option. The ones that I have googled are all a short length hose whereas I need a longer length one but I am sure that they are available.

    An interesting aside: I usually pay for the gas and the last one that I bought at Ayr CC was £16.50 approx for the 3.9kg (rrp is £16.55). When we discovered that had leaked its contents Fliss said she would pay for the replacement for a change and gave me a £20 note. We were on the C&CC site at Moffat and their price was about £20! No idea if this mark up is common on C&CC sites. 

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited June 2018 #16

    Wasn't it mentioned on here sometime ago that if sites have to pay a delivery charge they add that to the cost of the exchange cylinder. Perhaps the C&CC do the same?

    David

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2018 #17

    As with a lot of both clubs sites a large majority are in very rural areas so i would have thought the price paid by the site staff would reflect that in the retail price list supplied to them by calor 

  • EasyT
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    edited June 2018 #18

    No idea but I know that September last year at CC site near Leek and in May at Ayr I paid around £16.50.

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  • DSB
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    edited June 2018 #20

    Fortunately we don't need to change our gas bottles that frequently and I'm still managing to source calorlite bottles, so I always plan to go to a larger supplier that often deal with caravans.  I got the last cylinders from Highbridge Caravans in Somerset.  When I knew they had calorlite I swapped my completely empty bottle and my almost empty bottle straight away. 🙂

    David

  • brue
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    edited June 2018 #21

    Ah Highbridge...we lost all our gas on the way home from a warranty service when they replaced a cylinder for us but omitted the washer....wink