Drone on and on and on!!
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Will you be posting some pics OP?
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Another photograph taken with my drone. I hope folks will appreciate that we are not buzzing over their heads and trying to peek at them having a BBQ or spying down through their Skylights for a gander at the goings on. Who the heck would want too?
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Quite a few of the van lifers use drones on their YouTube channels and they produce some fantastic footage. Having looked at The Tanfield Kid videos it's pretty obvious that the drone is pretty high in the sky and I imagine difficult to see let alone hear as often they are quite small?
David
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Drones are fantastic for such uses as Search and Rescue, Mountain Rescue, Police searches, professional photography, deliveries of medecines to remote locations etc.
As I have mentioned, I carry with me in the caravan an email I received from CAMC Sites Department confirming that they are not allowed to be flown from their sites due to disturbance caused to members. I believe that all site managers are aware of that.
Imagine if one were to be flown out of control and into a baby’s pram. Or if it scratched your caravan or car. They can malfunction or be flown by someone irresponsible. The type of person that doesn’t care about disturbing wildlife etc. I spoke to an RSPB chap at the Dee Estuary who said that in winter, when birds are struggling to find food, the disturbance of a drone, or a dog, can be the difference between life and death, due to the effort of an unnecessary frightening incident.
I can’t bear the things when flown by amateurs, and obviously you can’t have a rule that says ‘competent flyers only can fly drones on Club sites’. The rule has to be black and white.
No drones to be flown from a CAMC site. Simple!
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Disagree. The law is very complex regarding drones. They vary according to size and weight. My drone is under 250g and legally I can fly almost anywhere except over crowds and sensitive areas such as within certain distances from Airports etc. The software in the apparatus notifies me if this is the case. Altitude is restricted to below 120 metres as this is as low as light aircraft can fly, regardless of whether its a caravan site or not. Folk don't seem to mind aeroplanes or helicopters somehow and they cause a huge amount of damage when they crash? Also, nothing can legally prevent anyone from flying near but not over a caravan site, which is where you need to be in order to take a photograph, such as my one of Rowntree Park, York.
Its interesting to note that the last CAMC email I have just received has at least three images that were taken by drone. So we need to be careful about making hypocrytical judgements here.
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I go outside a club site to fly my drone then, providing there are no other restrictions, I fly it over the campsite. If at a CL I ask the owner for permission to fly from their property, if the answer is no I go outside the bounds of their property and fly
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There are many videos on youtube where people fly their drones, under 250g (often with an operator licence and insurance) over various company premises and sites, including police stations as well from a public place and video the whole place often zooming in. The law, according to them and the police who sometimes check on them after being called appears to be quite clear, they can and no one has rights over their airspace only the ground, provided there are no flying restriction which is given by an app and with height restrictions. Obviously they do it for entertainment and money making purposes.
DJ Audits is a good one to watch. Saw this one last night.
PS I neither condemn nor condone the practice .
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I must admit I am interested in getting one and probably will, I think in open and clear spaces like in the lakes or when I'm cycling it will certainly get some interesting videos that I wouldn't able to get without risk of injury. I'm not interested in flying over people's houses and in fact I always wait in ground based photographs for closer people to pass by (unless it's really touristy).
I will certainly be following all legal aspects and/or training and get insurance so any advice Oneputt or websites you can give that would be great. Early days yet.
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I watch a lot of utube vids and one that surprises me is ‘Life is too short’. Ken is an ex very senior police officer who flies a drone. The footage is really good but occasionally I think to my self I would never do that, flying too low and fairly close to people. I have no desire to upset others so very often I switch video option off for take off and landing
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Thanks oneputt!
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Just to clarify, I enquired with Sites Dept at EG house a few years ago, to check if people can fly a drone from a club site without having a special permission e.g. producing a film for the Club.
Reassuringly, the answer was ‘no’, and I carry a printed copy of their reply, in our caravan, so that I could produce it if necessary. Which it hasn’t been (yet).
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I have seen quite a few of their videos, currently their videos are from a trip to Norway last year. Others worth a look are Camper Vibe and perhaps Those Happy Days, both usually do some good drone footage and both are aware of the rules about when and where to fly them. Just a health warning is that all three mentioned subscribe to a very different "camping" experience to the average Club member so perhaps bear that in mind when watching the videos and making a judgement!
David
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If someone has a drone 249g or less, there is no power to stop them doing so. The Caravan Club state it is not permitted, but they have no legal power. The Caravan club do not own the air space above the sites, if the pilot takes off and lands out of the grounds then they can. I don’t own a drone and understand people’s privacy concerns, but sadly no law prevents it.2
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@KevL I agree fully but to be fair to the club the actual club rule is:
Drones are not permitted to be used by guests on our campsites
I take that to mean one cannot a operate a drone from within the site but as you say nothing to stop anyone flying one from a public place. I would hope anyone doing so would have liability insurance and a required operator ID (for 249g) if the drone has a camera.
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@Oscarmax only if the drone has a camera, if it doesn't (and under 250g) then there is no
requirement to register for anything, either a flyer or operator ID.
But I can't see the point of having a drone without a camera?
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A drone is a great way to take pictures, an evolution of the camera. They are perfectly safe and are not illegal to use. Just enjoy your holiday and let everyone else do the same. I personally do not like dogs but I have to put up with the owners allowing them to defecate around the campsite and urinate on other peoples property. hey ho that's life, too short to moan and complain .
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not illegal to use Well yes and no, if there is camera and under 250g then an operator ID is required and there are certain places where it is illegal to fly them and these can even change on an hourly basis, use an app like drone assist to check before flying.
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had mine for a few years, hold operator ID and a drone pilot licence. Must admit I do not use it as often these days butit is great for video recording. A little common sense goes a long way, just don't know why people get so hung up on this topic. CCTV tracks all of us in our daily life .
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