Satellite dishes - do I need one?

Wilko201
Wilko201 Forum Participant Posts: 7
edited April 2018 in Parts & Accessories #1

Is it worth getting a satellite dish? On some sites the terrestrial reception can be poor. Will a satellite dish always remedy this? And as we are not Sky customers at home (we are Virgin Media) we will presumable only be able to receive the freeview channels? 

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  • SteveL
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    edited April 2018 #2

    Satellite dishes only work when they can see the Satellite, so tree filled sites can present a bit of a challenge. Some pitches that would be OK in winter, will have no reception in high summer. If you mainly use CC sites, those that don't have reasonable terrestrial reception usually have a loop system, so you should always be able to get access to reasonable reception. As to programmes, a freesat box will give you a similar selection to freeview and cost from £50 upwards, depending on if you want any pause / record functions. Some TV's have a built in decoder.The main advantage over terrestrial is in more remote locations, where even if good reception, the local transmitter will not cover the normal range of freesat channels, just the main ones. It does of course add yet another dimension to pitch selection.😀

  • indoors
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    edited April 2018 #3

    Hi Wilko,

    I'ved used various sat setups over the years and find it more useful than the terrestrial aerial.

    My present set up is SatGear off EBay. Comes complete with dish/Lnb/cable/connections/freeview box/tripod and sat finder.

    This can be sited and pegged down anywhere on pitch ( unlike a fixed unit ) Thankfully the fitted TV / DVD / RADIO on my Hymer is already plumbed in for sat/terrestrial and does not require a box.

    Happy caravanning.

    BTW: Do not try to set up the TV in those T shirts, you'll never get a signal !!! LoL.

  • ChrisRogers
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    edited April 2018 #4

    When you cannot get a signal from the caravan aerial then a dish is ideal, use ours most of the time, if there are lots of trees on site which block the line of sight then extra sat cable is needed (25m). I have a Avtex DRS TV with a  freeview (terrestrial) and a free to air sat receiver built in which will get all the channels on Astra 28, not encrypted (Sky). You can also change to other satellites i.e. Astra19, Hotbird, etc. you just have to point the dish to the correct location in the sky! 

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2018 #6

    If you’re only interested in reception in the UK, Wilko, I’d say you don’t need a satellite system but a good terrestrial aerial and a signal booster will do the job.

    Unfortunately, many vans either have poor aerials, or they’re not wired properly.

  • Kennine
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    edited April 2018 #7

    Satellite dishes - do I need one?   --- Answer,---- Only if you are touring on the continent and want to receive UK TV.

     

  • moulesy
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    edited April 2018 #8

    "Satellite dishes - do I need one?"

    Well no - you could always go for a walk or read a good book if you can't get any TV reception! wink

  • ocsid
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    edited April 2018 #9

    A feature that may or may not be of value to users is that one can tune into your "home" regions channels when off your local patch.

    I carry a dish and cable as our Avtex has the appropriate free to air satellite decoder already built in; we also have a Status terrestrial aerial, that is tried first and if poor then the small dish is quickly deployed. As said you need to be aware of trees. A rule of thumb with these is if you can place the dish twice as far from them, or other high object, then you can "see" the satellite over it.

    Far from essential but so is a TV, just the dish means it is very rarely a waste of time taking the TV.

    Note a small dish is all we now need in the UK, 50 CM is quite adequate it does not need to be a gross one here unless you have a "mine is bigger than yours" complex.

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  • PITCHTOCLOSE
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    edited April 2018 #11

    No,don't bother get to the pub😎

  • DaveCyn
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    edited April 2018 #12

    Best suggestion yet 👍

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited April 2018 #13

    I suspect the answer is how important watching television is. Digital signals via an aerial are usually a lot better than the old analogue system. So providing you are in a reasonable signal area the aerial should work perfectly well. As said before Club sites with a poor signal usually have a booster on the EHU bollard. For years we messed around with a freestanding dish which used to take anywhere between a minute and half a day to set up, especially abroad. We got rid of that and went for an automatic dish on the motorhome roof and providing I have a clear view of the sky it's tuned in within the minute. Realistically many people won't want to go to that expense. In my view if you have a clear view of the sky a satellite dish will provide a more consistent picture than a roof mounted aerial in a poorer signal area. We have a small Avtex aerial which we use if we have overhead trees and can't use the dish. It works pretty well but you have to have a strong signal to get all channels in one position. You can buy a satellite system fairly cheaply, sometimes the value supermarkets have them on offer or perhaps B&Q so it might be worth a punt to try one and see how you get on. But don't forget you could always end up on a site with lots of tree cover, poor aerial reception and no boosters so nothing is guaranteedwink

    David

  • Vicmallows
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    edited April 2018 #14

    Don't forget the internet as a TV source, especially if you are not 'heavy' TV users.  I know streaming over site WiFi is frowned upon on most UK sites because the incoming bandwidth is often so low, but 3G/4G mobile reception is usually adequate. (you can always download and view later if necessary to avoid annoying buffering).

    In southern Spain you have no realistic hope of BBC on satellite. The WiFi bandwidth on the site we were on this winter was so high that we had no concerns accessing BBC iplayer or ITV Hub (via VPN).

  • DSB
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    edited April 2018 #15

    We've not bothered about a satellite dish.  We've never taken the TV to Europe, and in the UK we've always used the normal caravan aerial, or we run an extension from the bollard if it has a TV point.

    David

  • Oneputt
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    edited April 2018 #16

    Why carry all the extra weight of tv and associated equipment.  Plenty to do and see when on holiday.  We never carry tv 📺 in van and never been bored yet, switch tv on and boredom set in.  Can’t help regarding satellite 📡

  • papgeno
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    edited April 2018 #17

    +1

    We have a TV in our van but I can't remember the last time we used it 

  • EasyT
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    edited April 2018 #18

    Ours is used for an hour or so on Christmas eve, Christmas day and Boxing day

  • huskydog
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    edited April 2018 #19

    The OP has asked a question, not a debate on wether owning a TV is worth it , it could be said ,why the food when there are restaurants about ,why have a toilet in the van when there are toilet blocks ,why take the caravan when there are hotels . It's called choice , for myself I take and watch tv in the motorhome and I don't have to justify it to anyone yell

     

  • Navigateur
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    edited April 2018 #20

    Surely since the satellites are equatorial one will require a bigger and bigger dish the further north one goes?

  • old ludlovian
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    edited April 2018 #21

    Hi I use satilite when I can't receive terrestrial tv on some sites in uk . aldi did a sat kit quite recently may have some left over in your local store have a look.dish supplied is a bit too small and hard to find signal with so I use a sat dish taken of the house which has worked as far south as the dordogne . I use it on a tripod . but also I can break the dish down to three parts which is very easy to do by taking the lnb off plus the lnb holder into dish which i have drilled out the fixings that attach it to the dish then I use butterfly nut and bolts for quick reassembly,  so it can all be packed away flat .

  • old ludlovian
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    edited April 2018 #22

    We also use satilite  to pick up radio stations in Europe.  we can keep up to date with our local news

  • BrianJosie
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    edited April 2018 #23

    We wouldn’t be without a satellite system 👍we enjoy watching the tv in the evenings with a glass or three of wine 😊for us it gives us what we need and help to make our hobby all the more enjoyable.

    Brian & Jo

  • Wilko201
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    edited April 2018 #24

    That's what I do but its the wife! 

  • Wilko201
    Wilko201 Forum Participant Posts: 7
    edited April 2018 #25

    Thanks for all of your responses - they have been very helpful. Personally I would just take a selection of DVD's - I get most of my "news" from the internet anyway. But my wife does like her TV.

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  • ABM
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    edited April 2018 #27

    Staff  Uniform  in  the  larger  branches of  Wilco I  believe,  BB  --  and  you  should  see  what  the  Management  has  to  wear  coolcool.

     

     

     

     

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  • Tammygirl
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    edited April 2018 #28

    We've not found that, rather the opposite the further South you go into France,Spain and Portugal the bigger the dish needs to be. An 85cm will take you to the bottom of France and even a bit into Spain with as Sky box, after that you will need a 1mtr down to Valencia and 1.4 mtr for Murcia and yes some folk do carry dishes that big. Some sites in Spain and Portugal will rent you a dish or you can on some sites have access to satellite on your pitch as they have it wired in to the bollard.

  • ocsid
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    edited April 2018 #29

    You are kidding us?

    Here we are dealing with a focused beam and unfortunately one they quite recently narrowed down a lot tighter onto their target viewers.

    The size dish needed depends on how close your location is to the beam's centre point, though a bit asymmetrically. Did I read somewhere it is Leicester?

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  • cyberyacht
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    edited April 2018 #31

    So much for all EU citizens being treated equally. Our continental neighbours can get their TV virtually anywhere but we can only get it in Blighty.