Wardens Reserving Pitches for MHs in Wet Weather

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  • Unknown
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    edited April 2018 #32
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  • EasyT
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    edited April 2018 #33

    If you turn up at a site and you feel you dont like whats on offer go elsewhere

    Same applies on CC sites for me David. 

  • DSB
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    edited April 2018 #34

    Thanks EasyT

    David

  • young thomas
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    edited April 2018 #35

    "If you turn up at a site and you feel you dont like whats on offer go elsewhere

    Same applies on CC sites for me David." 

     

    ...but without pausing to enlighten/gripe (depending on viewpoint) on CT, Alan?....undecided

    as David says, is it really an issue as to why a cone is placed on a pitch, as long as it's the warden who's placed it there?

    anyone visiting a a commercial site surely wouldn't bat an eyelid nor even consider the 'unfairness' of that cone...they'd just assume the warden had put it there for damn good reason, one that's his business and no one else's.

     

  • Fisherman
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    edited April 2018 #36

    It seems his is another " second hand story"  Why don't people stick to actualities before moaning. If  the pitch had been reserved then no doubt it was for a reason - bad weather maybe and thinking of the season long state of the site. As for moving on if the pitch was unacceptable - you had booked a pitch, turned up, so the club had a duty to provide you with a   serviceable pitch not necessary a H/S

  • mickysf
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    edited April 2018 #37

    I guess wardens have to manage the types of units arriving, the effects these have, the site conditions, pitches available and the expected weather on these. Until all pitches are hardstanding and all have unrestricted access on to them then management is a must isnt it? In inclement weather first come, first served might just might result in chaos, upset and much damage. Let those that know get on with managing I reckon.

  • EasyT
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    edited April 2018 #38

    In inclement weather first come, first served might just might result in chaos, upset and much damage. Let those that know get on with managing I reckon

    For my preference if there are insufficient suitable pitches then I would prefer to be cancelled or to have prior warning such that I can go elsewhere' I spent 5 nights on a soggy pitch 12 years ago and I am not about to do so again. That was enough

  • EasyT
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    edited April 2018 #39

    AS I said earlier I have been on several sites where the warden has tried to reserve pitches for motorhomes. This report simply reminded me.

  • dmiller555
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    edited April 2018 #40

    If the C&CC can allow the booking of pitch type then why cannot this club? 

     

  • indoors
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    edited April 2018 #41

    Good post ET, as per my last post the " Club " is actually a business and it seems they wish not to lose income sooner than cancel.

    As someone who enjoys all year round carvanning I for one will not accept wading in mud so that someone else ( that probably hasn't booked ) can have a dry pitch. I would sooner be contacted and allowed to know the situation before arriving on site.

    Happy caravanning.

  • Aspenshaw
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    edited April 2018 #42

    As a motorhomer, I don't expect preferential treatment and as far as I'm aware, have never received any.

    Had a couple of phone calls from wardens telling me that their site is very wet, they couldn't guarantee a hard standing pitch. and they had no means of removing a stricken motorhome as their tractor was not powerful enough. In each case, the wardens booked us into other sites which have more hardstanding. This ensures I do not receive the dreaded 'cancelled booking letter.'

    I reckon the current system works for most people. Complicating it with other booking options is probably going to create more dissatisfied members. I tend to book into sites with a high proportion of hard standing.

  • brue
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    edited April 2018 #43

    But they also reserve for caravans don't they and most of us understand why this has to be done. 

  • moulesy
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    edited April 2018 #44

    I've never been to Nunnykirk, but since we now know this is the site concerned and if, as some have said, all pitches are grass,  might it simply be that the warden had reserved a HS area rather that 4 specific HS pitches? In which case this is a bit of a non story! smile

  • EasyT
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    edited April 2018 #45

    Not a none story M. According to the report 4 suitable pitches were reserved for motorhomes. And as I said earlier it reminded me of similar events on CC sites that I personally witnessed and was involved in. One was at Shawsmead. I would not have walked on the central grass area that I was expected to use let alone drive and pitched on it. When pitching on a hard stand instead my cars front wheel strayed onto the grass. I was not using a mover as the rain was coming down in stair rods. The result was an embarrassingly deep trench left by the tyre.

  • brue
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    edited April 2018 #46

    EasyT, the reviewer in question, the one visible on the Nunnykirk details just now doesn't even mention hardstandings. There as obviously been a severe problem there due to bad weather and the reviewer was pleased the wardens had kept suitable pitches, no doubt the same for caravans arriving too.

  • Longtimecaravanner
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    edited April 2018 #47

    I rarely use club sites nowadays so may have missed something, but can someone tell me what is the club's objection to making booking of a hardstanding pitch possible and then free choice when you arrive within the restriction of which type of pitch you booked? I speak as someone who is quite happy on grass.

  • eurortraveller
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    edited April 2018 #48

    Sensible wardens at Nunnykirk. Well done. 

  • brue
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    edited April 2018 #49

    It is a non story EasyT because you have misread the reviewer and there is a problem at Nunnykirk, they are still not taking bookings due to the effects of the bad weather.

  • antirampman
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    edited April 2018 #50

    As a motorhomer of over 30 years I have lost count of the number of times I have been told that I can only take a hardstand pitch even in the height of summer when it was very dry. As it happens I prefer grass pitches when the conditions are right

  • moulesy
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    edited April 2018 #51

    Alan, I wasn't meaning to disagree with you. If a pitch is too wet to be used by a MH I wouldn't want to be driving on and off it each day in my (non 4x4) towcar either.

     But, although I admit I haven't read this particular review, it seems it might just be a case of a MH owner expressing his/her appreciation of what the wardens had done for them. It could equally have been a caravan owner saying that the warden had made sure a suitable pitch was available. Hence my non-story comment.

    As I said previously I don't think there is any justification for one type of unit owner being treated differently to another. smile

  • DSB
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    edited April 2018 #52

    In reply to [Deleted User User] on page 2 (it won't let me quote and post this morning.......

    I have always been happy with the pitch allocation system run by the C&CC - but then I always book a HS and they will allow you to do it.  I do think their hardstanding pitches are a bit smaller sometimes, but that I still prefer that to the grass option.  Just too much unpredictable rain here in the UK.  I know many would disagree, but I would be quite happy if the Club moved towards HS only pitches.  I can't see that happening, by the way, because of planning permission and the requirements of others.

    David 

  • cyberyacht
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    edited April 2018 #53

    Do not the majority of MH'ers carry traction mats as a precaution? Are conditions reaching "western front" proportions?

  • Fisherman
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    edited April 2018 #54

    Makes you laugh at the reasoning for the club name change- Even more Us and them now. I only post on actualities and have never encountered "pitch saving" and that even in the winter months.

  • EasyT
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    edited April 2018 #55

    Not a none story M. According to the report 4 suitable pitches were reserved for motorhomes. And as I said earlier it reminded me of similar events on CC sites that I personally witnessed and was involved in. One was at Shawsmead. I would not have walked on the central grass area that I was expected to use let alone drive and pitched on it. When pitching on a hard stand instead my cars front wheel strayed onto the grass. I was not using a mover as the rain was coming down in stair rods. The result was an embarrassingly deep trench left by the tyre.

  • EasyT
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    edited April 2018 #56

    Alan, I wasn't meaning to disagree with you. If a pitch is too wet to be used by a MH I wouldn't want to be driving on and off it each day in my (non 4x4) towcar either.

    I have no problem driving on and off in the X-Trail and I have no concern on that point. 

    What I do not want to do is to walk to and from car/caravan over wet soft ground. Been there once not again Moulsey.

  • mickysf
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    edited April 2018 #57

    Well yes, that would be one example of 'them' managing the situation, there may be others like managing appropriate pitches to suit unit and conditions. Preference as to which method employed would, as implied, be down to the individual. Of course, we may need to note that 'them' on the ground at specific sites may just be in the best position to make those calls. 

  • EasyT
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    edited April 2018 #58

    Nothing at all to do with them and us F. If a pitch is not suitable for a motorhome then it is not suitable for me.

    I have encountered reserving hard stand for motorhome in Spring/Summer before the rename which is, from my point of view, an irrelevance

  • Longtimecaravanner
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    edited April 2018 #59

    I take it no one knows the answer. As I don't use Club site very often and am happy on grass it doesn't bother me but I would be interested to know the answer. Didn't they start a trial of it last year?

  • EasyT
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    edited April 2018 #60

    I think that the trial was done throughout 2015 and the Caravan said that the option had confused members!

    Personally I think that they realised that once hard standing had been booked up then less folk would be keen on booking remaining grass pitches

  • Unknown
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