York Rowntree Park evacuated

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  • David2115
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    edited April 2018 #32

    Wardens were Informed of flood warning the night before and told members at 10am next morning when a large number of people had already ventured off the sight, apparently wardens them made phone calls to them to urgently return. 

  • old ludlovian
    old ludlovian Forum Participant Posts: 132
    edited April 2018 #33

    Having visited the site a week before building site next door builders good have put out signs rd closed . Now the only authority that can close a rd are the police who would put out risk off flooding not even the highways authority or utilities  can close a rd .access to frontages  and emergence services must be observed at all times.new rd and street works act. Ex street works inspector

  • moulesy
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    edited April 2018 #34

    Spoken like a true long time angler, K!! wink

  • Navigateur
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    edited April 2018 #35

    A closed road is still a road, and these frequently appearing "closed" signs are worse than useless.  Rarely do they include information on where it is closed - here, 100 yard, five miles; or when - all the time, working hours, weekends; or what premises can be accessed, and the route for those that require a diversion.

    And, of course, it is against the law to put out an unauthorised sign - so even if the hard pressed warden in his boat did have a sign he would be in enormous trouble if it was deployed on the highway.

  • twocals
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    edited April 2018 #36

    York is never unexpectedly closed. Did this person when driving to York  not take in the flooded fields broken river banks and think York could be a mess.One circular tour over skeldergate bridge would have confirmed the flooded river.

     

  • PITCHTOCLOSE
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    edited April 2018 #37

    This site wants removing from club,sell the lease,spend the money elsewhere, it is not fit for purpose.I have a week booked there in August  probably cancel it before the rain does.

     Ps Tewkesbury is has bad, the amount of club funds poured into that site because of flooding is ridiculous,better spent on the site's that do not flood

     

  • Navigateur
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    edited April 2018 #38

    Hmm.  Perhaps expertise in running caravan sites could be applied to running marinas?

  • Kennine
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    edited April 2018 #39

    Or in the case of York, Rowntree park the site could have a dual function. Half marina-- half Campsite. A real money spinner no matter the weather wink

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  • papgeno
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    edited April 2018 #40

    My view for what it's worth is this. If the sign says road closed don't go any further, if it says road ahead closed then by all means go and have a look but be prepared to have to turn round. If you're towing a caravan give some thought to how easy that might be.

  • Pawsome
    Pawsome Forum Participant Posts: 41
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    We were there and had to leave, all was calm on site as people packet up and left.  Once on Terry Ave queued up gridlock as a caravan was blocking exit try to come in.   Having read the thread know why.  Lucky the river was still at a safe point or could have been a different story.  Ignoring a road closed sign, very dangerous.

  • GTP
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    edited April 2018 #42

    Why do people want to visit York...its full of professional beggars, the Minster charges a fortune for entry, you have to queue for hours to get a table at Bettys cafe and the river floods frequently...its a Shambles..

  • Fisherman
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    edited April 2018 #43

    Just as a matter  of interest what happened to those already non site. Did they find or were given an alternative or did they curtail their hols. What happened to those booked but could not get in.

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited April 2018 #44

    Good question, Fisherman. Did the wardens help those both on the site that had to leave, and those that were due in, to find a site? Do those who can't get on and those who've had their stay curtailed get a rebate?

  • mickysf
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    edited April 2018 #45

    Do folk not realise that it is illegal to place any signage of any description on public highways and roads.  Only that provided by the authorities is allowed and quite rightly in my opinion. 

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2018 #46

    I would think that as it was very short notice of the flood warning it would be yes to two of your points and what rebate for those not arrived?

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2018 #47

    Like most big towns and cities and there are two Bettys in York,the queues at Harrogate are not as longwink

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited April 2018 #48

    Not caused by flooding, but we once found ourselves in the middle of a traveller invasion at a Club Site. Have to say the onsite staff, and the Area Manager who quickly turned up were excellent in terms of the help they gave to visitors who were onsite. Sadly, the one police officer who turned up wasn't, but I won't go into those details here. There were few if any visitors who chose to stay, mainly because a member had been badly frightened into giving out the code for the loo block, so not only were folks worried about hook ups, possessions and pets, no one wanted to be near the awful people that had got illegally onto the site. There was no fuss, but if people wanted to move elsewhere, the staff sorted this out as quickly as they could, and they offered refunds as well. It was a few years ago now, and the site in question now has security gates, but I am sure the Club would be just as helpful.

    Just a shame Beechwood Grange is closed at moment, that might have made things easier. But I think anyone who books to stay at YRP knows about the flood risk, same as Tewkesbury. You take a chance it won't happen on your stay! laughing

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited April 2018 #49

    Personally I think Betty's is overrated in terms of the food. Most of the nice hotels in York will do a much nicer afternoon tea, and you won't have to put up with all the tourists taking selfies and photographing anything that's wearing a frilly apron, covered in cream or in a highly priced tin! smile

  • Wherenext
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    edited April 2018 #50

    I must admit I've never seen any of the staff covered in cream but it has been a long time since my last visit and if that's what customers want then why not.smile

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited April 2018 #51

    OOPsembarassed Was getting club's mixed up.wink Well spotted JVB.

  • Pawsome
    Pawsome Forum Participant Posts: 41
    edited April 2018 #52

    The wardens were going around site knocking on doors explaining everyone had to leave.

    Other wardens were in the office issuing refunds.

    They would not have time to help anyone find alternative sites.  Over 100 pitches had to evacuate their priority was to get everyone off site.

    I phoned an alternative site as soon as they knocked on my door sorted out a pitch. Then rang huby to return to site asap, went to office queued up for a refund. Everyone in queue was fine and light hearted, most like myself had done it before.  Could hear warden in back office telephoning people to return to site.  Assume once those in immediate danger were dealt with they then rang those due on site.  Given that the road was closed off the main road to allow the people from site to leave and also several hundred residents from the riverfront flats everything went smoothly except for a couple of caravans blocking the exit. (maybe more but as we left two were causing problems).

    There was also a caravan which had gone past the first exit road and so blocking access to the second exit road which looked like it had been loaded wrong it was back heavy and the front was sticking up in the air I booked from the tow ball thing.  I assume in a panic they had chucked stuff in and got weight distribution wrong?

    We were told would reopen today, but not had this confirmed yet, to be on safe side we are waiting until next Sat before we return as more rain due and we are happy parked up at Lysander Arms.

  • Fisherman
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    edited April 2018 #53

    Pawsome- Interesting post. Must have been difficult to relocate as Easter holiday though.

  • Pawsome
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    edited April 2018 #54

    Yes I imagine a lot of family holidays were ruined.  Lysander Arms is adult only place as no kids with us.  It's half empty.  Hopefully people booking Rowntree know it's liable to flood and keep that in mind when lots of rain and or snow and go with a back up plan in place.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2018 #55

    Thanks for the insider's view, Pawsome. I reckon those wardens deserve a round of applause.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited April 2018 #56

    They do indeed. 

    Could do with an update on emergency news thread on this section, perhaps make it a sticky?

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited April 2018 #58

    Same from me. Answers my questions.

  • clarinetman
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    edited April 2018 #59

    Hi we were due at rowntree park on the day it was flooded we were at Hebden Bridge and saw there was a flood warning for york, I went online to the club and had a “chat” which the response was we have no knowledge of a problem at York.

    We then rang the site and when they eventually were able to answer they said evacuation was in progress and they cancelled our booking.

    we stayed at Hebden Bridge, I have spoke to the wardens on a previous time when they put a flood alert sign out about their procedure and yes they are left to sort out the evacuation, helping people to get off site, issue refunds, contact all people due to arrive etc etc

    My point is this is not a reasonable thing to expect the wardens to undertake surely there should be a crisis team at head office who take on all the future arrivals and even handle refunds whilst the wardens deal with the evacuation.