Tyre Repair

Kelteglow
Kelteglow Forum Participant Posts: 36
edited March 2018 in Towcars & Towing #1

The tyres on my car cost £180 each to replace .Repair can only be done when any puncture is not on the edge 0f the tread .Is it not time with modern technology to be able to repair all punctures of the tyre.May be by vulcanising ( applying patches with heat )or something.

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  • ABM
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    edited March 2018 #2

    Kelteglow,  please  don't  take  offence  at  this  but :--

    How  much  does  a  funeral  cost  ??

  • EmilysDad
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    edited March 2018 #3

    It's already possible to vulcanise a tyre repair .... depends where you take it for repair.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2018 #4

    Such repairs as vulcanising or 'stitching' are no longer considered safe.

    Only this week I’ve had to fork out for a new tyre on my 5 month old car due to a puncture at the edge of the tread/sidewall. It's one of the joys of car ownership. I paid up and thought no more of it.

    And ABM has hit the nail on the head. (No pun intended surprised)

  • EmilysDad
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    edited March 2018 #5

    I'll stand corrected  quietly in the corner then ..... ☺ it's been a while since I've had one done, but even then, there were limited places that could do a vulcanised repair.

    I prefer not to replace single tyres 😎

  • brue
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    edited March 2018 #6

    We've had one done on our M/H all ok.

  • xtrailman
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    edited March 2018 #7

    I've had at least 3 hot vulcanised repairs done.

    If you actually see what they can repair, fist size holes in huge tyres it could be an eye opener.

    When was it banned?

  • EmilysDad
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    edited March 2018 #8

    It's probably never been banned ..... just urban/forum myths by those that think perhaps they might possibly should be ..... 😉

  • moulesy
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    edited March 2018 #9

    Just replaced the two front tyres on our towcar @ £160 each. Just have to bite the bullet - can'take put a price on safety. smile

  • Phishing
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    edited March 2018 #10

    You can close any hole and do the best vulcanizing of the new compound but you cant see the belts unless you xray the tyre. The issue is damage to the belts that give the strength to the wall.

     

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2018 #11

    I didn’t say it was banned. undecided

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2018 #12

    To elaborate, vulcanising and also the use of mushroom headed plugs are good repair techniques but can only be used if the damage is in a comparatively flat part of the tyre that does not flex much.

    As far as I am aware, if an emergency repair compound has been used, the tyre cannot be repaired in any circumstances.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited March 2018 #13

     You implied ..... 

  • EmilysDad
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    edited March 2018 #14

    As far as I' m aware,  you're incorrect as I know at least some of them are water based.

  • SteveL
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    edited March 2018 #15

    It would seem repairs are now carried out to British Standard BSAU159. I don't think these are law, but presumably an insurer might take a dim view of a repair that fell outside its guidance. Possibly it is even mentioned in the miles of small print.

  • Kelteglow
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    edited March 2018 #16

    We live in a throw away society .Tyre manufactures want to sell Tyres.I agree with British standards and do not want to jeopardise safety.What I am saying is surely there should be a way of repairing these tyres .

  • Metheven
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    edited March 2018 #17

    Maybe there could be if push came to shove, but are they interested undecided

    Sidewall repairs are iffy and good tyre outlets will keep to their code of practice and refuse to repair, it's where the reinforcing is to impact the loading from above and inhibit flexing, whereas the tread just wants to keep you on the road.

    Had a good read and can't see that anyone has written that it is banned.

  • BrianJosie
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    edited March 2018 #18

    Hi there KG just to let you know that tyres that have a nail or screw in the shoulder of the tyre or a vertical cut in the sidewall can still be repaired with a process that we call a major repair which is done in and autoclave under heat and is a guaranteed repair.Avery good freind of mine owns a tyre repair company in Stone in Staffordshire and has been in business for 40yrs and their work is excellent.

    Brian & Jo

  • xtrailman
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    edited March 2018 #19

    You made out they were.

    Also you are wrong about a tyre that's been temporary repaired with sealant.

    My son tyre was simply flushed out with a hose pipe and repaired.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2018 #20

    No I did not, xtrailman. Read it again. 

    It seems some tyre depots will repair after sealant use, some won’t, so I was not totally incorrect.

    Thankyou for your well considered input. smile

     

  • Phishing
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    edited March 2018 #21

    The issue is that you have no way of knowing what damage was done to the sidewall or what damage may be done when drilling or cleaning the hole.

    The rubber bit can be perfectly jointed at a molecular level, that is not in question. The issue is that the belts give the tyre strength not the rubber.

    This is not as critical in the tread area as the majority of the force is always going to be in one direction but on the shoulder or wall the lateral forces on modern tyres is huge. Failure therefor is likely to occur during maximum lateral load, just when you really dont want it to.

  • xtrailman
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    edited March 2018 #22

    All my vulcanised tyre repairs were on the tread area, but outside the area where a normal repair is allowed.

    During my working life I had around 50 tyre puncture repairs, and not one failed later as a result.

    The vulcanising is expensive and only worth it on an expensive tyre with good tread.

  • Kelteglow
    Kelteglow Forum Participant Posts: 36
    edited March 2018 #23

    Hi Brian & Jo Thanks for your reply about repairing  my Tyre .Do you have an address or Name of a company where I can send the tyre for special repair.Thanks Bob