Kingdom of Saudi Arabia

Oneputt
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edited March 2018 in General Chat #1

Read somewhere that KSA are going to introduce tourist visa’s with the idea of attracting up to 30million people a year.  Having worked for 4 years on both East and West coasts of Saudi I have some knowledge of the country and it’s people.  Would you be persuaded to visit bearing in mind you couldn’t visit either Mecca or Medina, drink alcohol and live as we take for granted here?

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  • redface
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    edited March 2018 #2

    No I wouldn't want to.I could not stand the heat outdoors, nor the chill indoors either.

  • Pliers
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    edited March 2018 #3

    I'd absolutely love to visit. Travel is all about experiencing different cultures, so the lack of alcohol etc wouldn't put me off at all.

    From what I've read though, the new visas are only for group travel, which isn't my scene, but maybe that restriction will be reconsidered soon.

     

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited March 2018 #4

    Just out of interest why can't you visit Mecca or Medina. I appreciate that they are religious sites but had no idea they were out of bounds.

    David

  • Oneputt
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    edited March 2018 #5

    David, only Muslims allowed 

  • artyboo
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    edited March 2018 #6

    Until they develop some minimal semblance of human rights and/or equality, I wouldn’t even consider stepping foot inside. Shame though, it does look beautiful.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited March 2018 #7

    My thoughts as well artyboo. I have no desire to contribute to such a regime, no matter how beautiful it is, nor how nice most of the people are. Not allowing alcohol is the least of Saudi Arabia's problems.

  • byron
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    edited March 2018 #8

    The fact that the Saudi authorities are allowing tourists maybe could be taken as a move to a more liberal attitude and could be encouraged by a good response.  I am sure many of us have visited countries with less than ideal regimes without realising, I know I have.

  • kevine
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    edited March 2018 #9

    Things are getting better, i heard women are now allowed to to drive 

    Depending on your POV , that can be good or bad wink

    And their politics  are not really my business 

  • Kennine
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    edited March 2018 #10

    If I could, I would visit Saudi Arabia,--- I just wouldn't drink alcohol while there.  .  I would take no interest in their politics,----------- (Their Country -  Their Laws).----------- I would merely be a tourist enjoying what the country has to offer. 

    cool

     

  • Oneputt
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    edited March 2018 #11

    I only mentioned alcohol in passing .  But i'm sure a lot of the 30 million people they would want to  attracted would be slightly peeve.  By the same token if you wanted to practice your own religion thats banned so no church on Sunday.  I never found the country spectacular apart from the diving in the Red Sea.  With temperatures of 40+C and 100% humidity for about 8/9 months of the year.

    A lot of the historic houses and quarter were bulldozed in the late 70's early 80's.

    Pretty sure I wouldn't be on the tour

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited March 2018 #12

    Oneputt

    I don't think you are going to get a job with the Saudi Arabia Tourist Board anytime soonwink

    What little I know about the country does not particularly appeal to me, not sure I could cope with the heat. A former colleague went to Mecca to the Hajj but I am not sure that people that visit for religious reasons actually get to see much of the rest of the country?

    David

  • cyberyacht
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    edited March 2018 #13

    None of those gulf destinations have much appeal for me. I know what some of you mean when you are reluctant to visit due to some of the attitudes and practices. I feel the same way about Israel.

  • artyboo
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    edited March 2018 #14

    Just a pointless fact; ALCOHOL is actually an Arabic word 😝

  • ABM
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    edited March 2018 #15

    Thank  you  Artyboo laughing --  Sunday  is  another  school  day  innocent

    { The bloomin' things I learn on 'ere ( of which spellin' ain't one wink )}

  • Oneputt
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    edited March 2018 #16

    Sunday is another school day

    Certainly is in Saudi laughing

    I don't think you are going to get a job with the Saudi Arabia Tourist Board anytime soon

    No, I would probably be led out to some convenient square after Friday prayers and taught a severe lesson for criticising the regimesurprised 

  • ABM
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    edited March 2018 #17

    + 1  Oneputt  !!

    The  number  of  times  I  have  pulled  people  up  over  their  use  of  the  term  "Anti Semitic "  and  asked  them  exactly  what  that  term  means.    I  think  the  percentage  accuracy  is  in  minus  figures   alas.  It's  so  very  easy  to  repeat  parrot  fashion  the  'IN PHRASES'

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited March 2018 #18

    I have no problems with SA religions. I do have issues with the supression and control of sections of the population though, the female section namely. And rather inhuman punishments. A male dominated world is not a happy place.

  • byron
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    edited March 2018 #19

    As I have said there are so many countries with dubious practices its hard to avoid so we will visit anywhere as long as our personal safety is not at risk, and there is something of interest to see

    We visited Israel a couple of years ago and found it absolutely fascinating, we were guided by an ex Israeli commando who took us to mainly Palestinian owned restaurants and the West Bank

  • Cartledge
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    edited March 2018 #20

    Having visited Kuwait twice a year for the last 14 years, and a few times to Saudi, I find a week off the alcohol is good. There always seems to be a wonderful supply of juices and soft drinks available. It is nice to return home refreshed, to a nice glass of red though. Absence makes the heart etc. 

    Gulf cuisine and culture can be fascinating too; the respect for culture, good manners, modesty, family and friends from the younger generation is warming to see and be part of, if you are fortunate enough to be invited into their homes.

    As regards politics and religion, there are many places in the world, indeed any country you have not visited before, where it would be impolite to express a view of something you probably know little or nothing about.

    As for the weather, at least its reliable.....

  • hastghyll
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    edited March 2018 #21

    One of my daughters lives in Saudi and has done for a few years. Women are not as repressed as the media makes out, but they do get paid a lot less than men . However I would not want to visit as there is so little to do.