Deliveries to site from supermarkets

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  • brue
    brue Forum Participant Posts: 21,176 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    edited March 2018 #62

    What's wrong with "click and collect" for those who want to order food? Surely a half way solution for holiday food shopping and avoids extra vehicles on or near sites.

  • young thomas
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    edited March 2018 #63

    Interesting post....

    Corners posted this earlier...

    "well I'm firstly concerned about the safety implications about vans on site, driving around and parking perhaps obscuring other users and then impeding pitching or leaving. What happens if these vans arrive when there is a queue, which could happen at any time?"

    had we not known he was posting about the use or not of a delivery van on site, he could easily have been describing what happens on site without delivery vans.....wink

    so, we do manage to survive congestion on site....the CC 'process' of driving round and round the site looking for the 'best pitch' actively encourages traffic when compared to some other sites who prefer you to walk around and get your bearings.....but then again, on those sites we don't have everyone arriving at the same time....

    with a few (more) 'rules' I'm sure we accommodate just a few more delivery vans, after all, comapred to the number of caravans/MH on site it's only a tiny few.....

  • moulesy
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    edited March 2018 #64

    That's a good point, brue. It does occur to me that many of these "busy families", presumably taking a family holiday of a week or a fortnight are likely to be arriving within a short time of each other, likely at weekends and hoping for a food delivery within a short time of arriving on site.

    Cue chaos!

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  • Takethedogalong
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    edited March 2018 #66

    One site we used for around a decade, (all grass field) had a milkman come round every day with milk, cheese, eggs, cream, fresh bread.

    Now if the Club allowed one mid sized van to come round, a local business rather than a supermarket, I would be all for such a scheme, each morning. I suspect if the products were good quality it would go down a storm with a lot of folks, fresh breakfast every morning. Like what we can buy on some small private farm sites! Could either drive round Site, or have a park up spot, safe enough for children to fetch the goodies!  

  • moulesy
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    edited March 2018 #67

    But as you know, David, even as a very occasional user of club sites, "walking the site" is not how the club operates and given the arrival rules (which I'm not a fan of) One can only imagine the chaos which would ensue.  Or are we expecting that to be changed too to accommodate those expecting deliveries?

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2018 #68

    Any such vans have normally come and gone whilst we are off pitch TDA

  • moulesy
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    edited March 2018 #69

    Yes, that's a better idea. Good for local business and possibly the same driver each day who would get to know site layout.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited March 2018 #70

    +1

    yes, good idea, supports local business - go along with that, it should park where the current chip van parks though rather than drive around?

     

    snap!

  • brue
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    edited March 2018 #71

    St Agnes and Minehead both have a local van delivering papers, bread, cakes and milk etc. I think a butcher's van calls at St Agnes too. I think this happens elsewhere but these are two sites that have had these local services for years. smile

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  • EmilysDad
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    edited March 2018 #73

    And who decides who can & who can't deliver? Would it be decided on a nod & a wink? innocent

  • onepjg
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    edited March 2018 #74

    How about the CAMC investing in some insulated drop boxes, situated near the reception. Users could hire the box for a 24 hour period for a charge, enabling the club to cover the cost and perhaps even a profit. If they had a code, this could be supplied to retailer for delivery. If insulated, the member could collect their groceries when suits them. The club would have to negotiate a non signed for delivery with the likes of Tesco etc, which is probably possible. Ok, you have a delivery van at reception, but is that really the end of the world. It seems to me that it could be done. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=utehW-6zcaI

  • Cornersteady
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    edited March 2018 #75

    no, just a bribesmile

  • Navigateur
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    edited March 2018 #76

    So what is different about a motor caravan driving off site to go to a supermarket and returning, and a delivery van coming to drop off the same items and then leaving?  Apart from the delivery van being smaller, and signwritten.

    Of course, the delivery van might stop at more than one pitch, which would mean less motor caravan or tow vehicles driving around the site to leave and return.

  • moulesy
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    edited March 2018 #77

    That's not the point, surely, David. The fact is that current  layouts and arrival arrangements make frequent delivery vans to club sites problematic to say the least. In that respect, what happens on huge sites overseas with different layouts and arrival arrangements is irrelevant. Not questioning your experience in other places, just facing up to what we have at present.

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited March 2018 #78

    Except the odd posterwink

  • brue
    brue Forum Participant Posts: 21,176 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    edited March 2018 #79

    How would you feel if you were arriving on site or trying to leave or go out for the day and a delivery van held you up going from van to van? smile

  • ATDel
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    edited March 2018 #80

    We don’t, we get days off so go out and about like everyone else who has days off, we fit shopping in during that time just like we did when w3 had 9 till 5 jobs

  • Navigateur
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    edited March 2018 #81

    Much the same as when a new arrival motor caravan of similar size is going from vacant pitch to vacant pitch to ensure that the "best" one is chosen.

  • ATDel
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    edited March 2018 #82

    At Treamble Valley last season we had a local butchers shop van come to the site 3 times a week not only meat but fruit and veg, milk and some basic tinted foods. He does a lot of trade in a lot of different sites in the area

  • brue
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    edited March 2018 #83

    So when Mr and Mrs X ask about their missing bananas and Ms A rejects the cereal etc are you prepared to wait? wink

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited March 2018 #84

    No. An enterprising, forward thinking, business person would write to HQ outlining all the details, with a risk assessment proposal, a food hygiene certificate and an outline business plan and ask for a trial period, willing and able to review this and make any alterations deemed suitable after feedback from on site Wardens, some input from visitors, and a review meeting with HQ. And then move onto supplying a second site in close area! Perhaps including sandwiches, pack ups, so that the truly chilled out only have to eat it! laughing

    I (oops, sorry) They, could even take orders for a special "dine in for two"! Oh, and emergency dog food!

    Seriously though, I am sure there are some local businesses out there that might fancy it. And it would be a feather in Club marketing dept cap working with local community. Not so much on the town sites, but perhaps those a bit further out in sticks. 

  • Spriddler
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    edited March 2018 #85

    I expect the CC to install 'Hot cupboards' before any barrier where the (pre-paid) nosh can be left for later collection.

  • Spriddler
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    edited March 2018 #86

    I know a couple of sites in France where the operators allow a bread/dairy van in and take a 'commission' on sales.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited March 2018 #87

    +1.

    the simple fact is that caravans and motorhomes have to be there (well they have paid), delivery vans do not have to be there. Every single delivery van is an extra vehicle that does not need to be there and will add to congestion and makes the site less safe.

    and of course these delivery vans will be more likely to keep to speed limits?

  • Spriddler
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    edited March 2018 #88

    Where's our resident money-saving expert/delivery man when you need him? (I can't believe I just wrote that).

    Has he delivered to sites? Does his firm have a policy on that?

     

  • neveramsure
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    edited March 2018 #89

    It would be interesting to know how many of you use the supermarket delivery services at home. I myself don't know anyone who uses them and I would be even less likely to while on a site.smile  

  • Navigateur
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    edited March 2018 #90

     and of course these delivery vans will be more likely to keep to speed limits?

    Yes.  Since a complaint about it to their Head Office will be treated more seriously than a complaint to East Girnstead about a member/non-member.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited March 2018 #91

    We have stuff delivery every week, well unless away, and quite a few of our neighbours. Most are Sainsburys or Asda but the people across the close use Waitrose, now as the nearest store is quite some way off (12 miles rather than 2 miles for the other two) I assume they do it to show us they are richer than us?