2017 Peugeot boxer sat nav
looking to upgrade my current Peugeot stereo system. I'm looking for a touch screen system with the sat nav built in.
Can anyone advise if Peugeot has this and if so the model number or if there are any other makes that will fit the gap where the original stereo will be removed from.
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we have a Pioneer double-Din unit which is touch screen and has a satnav as well as DVD player, DAB radio, Bluetooth phone etc....
sounds great.....however...
the unit uses about 1.8 amp when on standby, this (along with alarm and immobiliser! will drain the vehicle battery in 4/5 days..... unless it has a 'proper' isolation switch..
also, the sat nav will need to be updated periodically and most folk like to have their own POI files loaded....im totally familiar with doing this on my TomTom but Id have to learn a new (trickier) system for the Pioneer.
lastly, the unit requires 'umpteen' presses to turn the unit off......bonkers.
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I agree with B.B. I bought an upgraded media unit which includes a Pioneer that does everything, rear camera, sat nav, cd, links to phone for music, telephone, apple play etc, But...
I am required to pay for map upgrades, whereas I have lifetime free updates on my Garmin, and my gaming is easier to update and add POIs. Also my Garmin is a larger screen and when using my Garmin separately I can see and use the Pioneer touch screen for everything else. Also the Dab radio reception is poor, so generally use the pioneer on fm.
Having said that the music sound quality is very good and we can link it the tv for surround sound. Never had a problem with the battery drain issue that some have reported.
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Apperly, we got the van in January, immediately went on a 9 week trip to spain and had no issue with the battery drain.....however, we were mostly using EHU.
when we got home, i left the van on the drive and after a few days i went to the van and i noticed the low battery indicator light was on.
in fact, the cab battery was flat.
i have a solar panel, but this wasnt repleninshing as fast as the drain was taking it out.
now i also have an 'entertainment' switch which can isolate the radio unit (but also does everything else like sat dish, tvs etc)....
my workaround is to turn off this switch so the batrwry doesnt drain.
perhaps you have something similar and have always turned it off?
in our previous van (also Carthago) i didnt bother to turn off this switch but we never got the drain, probably as the unit was a much less sophisticated one and the draw must have been minimal.
apparently for 2018 there is a 'fix' (seperate isolation?) which i am waiting to review with my dealer.....
good luck.
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Thanks BoleroBoy & Apperley, I wasn't sure if Peugeot had a system with built in sat nav. I think now that if I was to go down the route of installing another make of stereo/sat nav I would just need to purchase the facia panel for the Peugeot for the system to slot into.
Interesting about the battery drain over 4/5 days. I wasn't aware that the stereo used so much power on standby. I have a solar panel at present but I think my vehicle battery charges when I have it connected to the mains. Isolation switch seems the best option though.
I also have a Garmin sat nav but was thinking it would be better to have it all in the one place with a touch screen opposed to having the sat nav and cables over the dash.
Was the pioneer system an upgrade from Peugeot and what model is it?
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Doug, our van is on a Fiat Ducato and the Pioneer unit was a factory fitted option....it came with the van....
after i had the battery discharge issue, i called the AA who started the van for me but also did a few mins diagnostic, telling me that there was a 1.8 amp drain from the vehicle battery with the Pioneer in 'stand by'.
i got hold of the Pioneer spec sheet and this told me the 'standby' drain was around 1.8 amp but that the full draw (with all functions running) might be as much as 10 amp!!!
i rang Pioneer and spoke to their technical department (very helpful) who verified both these figures....
now, of you have a car, which is used daily, the alternator recharges the battery sufficiently to offset the effects of the Pioneer drain...
however, leave a MH on the drive for a week and......
all this lead me to using the 'entertainment' switch to isolate the unit, i suggest you ise the '12v systems' switch or similar to contwin the draw..
good luck.
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Thanks again BoleroBoy.
I went to my Peugeot dealer today to see what system with sat nav was available for my Peugeot and was told there isn’t one ☹️
Ive Also been into Halfords and they have a pioneer 7” touch screen with built in sat nav. This is a double din so I also need to get the facia surround. Does this sound correct ?
Has anybody got a photo of there system fitted so I can see how it look.
this is the system I have fitted at present
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Hi DougA,
This is what is fitted to my Bailey, https://www.baileyofbristol.co.uk/news-and-info/blog/199-innovation/387-5a-closer-look-at-autograph-s-media-pack-plus
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yes, this looks like my unit....
A, do you have any sort of isolation switch to prevent the above issues?
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Cheers Apperley that's brill. This is just what I've been looking at but was not sure of the fitting into the dash.
Im looking at a similar pioneer which now confirms it will fit and look okay.
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Just need to find the correct way to fit the isolation switch BoleroBoy 👍🏼
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Hi BB & DougA, so this is fitted to my 2017 Autograph that I picked up in May. I queried the battery drain issue with the dealer and they (Kimberley’s @ Darlington) spoke to Bailey who said the problem had previously been caused by them, Bailey, incorrectly wiring them in and they had now modified the installation.
Kimberleys checked the power levels and said there was no drain issue, BUT the only way to switch it off is to remove the vertical control panel on the left of the unit, which to be honest is no problem for me, I pop it in the little ashtray cup in the cup holder.
I do have a solar panel and am mostly on EHU, but we have used the system to play music or run the surround sound when watching music on the TV, or watching DVDs and have not had any battery problems.
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Apperley, thanks for the extra info re: the removal of the vertical control panel to 'turn it (fully) off'....i didnt know this and i will experiment using this method, leaving the 'entertainment' button on......and then monitor any battery change...
if this works, this is effectively the solution i am looking for....an isolated head unit with the entertainment button 'on' allowing for other items like the sat tuner/dish to be used without the drain of the head unit.
cheers.
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just a quick update....i removed the detachable panel yesterday morning and turned on the Entertainment button, to try and force a 'large drain' situation...
having checked last night, this morning and now this evening, i can report that the drain has disappeared and batteries fully charged...
well, the Solar Panel is able to keep up with it, which it wasnt before.....
so, this seems to be, in effect, a 'proper' isolation process, far more effective than 'turning it off'.....which actually left it in 'standby' and causing a 1.8A drain....
thanks again...
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Cheers 👍. One other question the audio installer asked if I want the new system connected to the vehicle battery or the leisure battery. Not too sure about this but I said the vehicle battery. It's got me thinking though.
Am I correct or should it be connected to the leisure battery ?
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No worries, A.....i had planned to get my dealer to implement the '2018 fix' (more then likely a switch) when i get the damp check done in January...
looks like we have found an even easier workaround.
(ill keep an eye on it, though.....
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Doug, i know that some installations from the vehicle battery had 20minute cutouts (to protect running it down) which proved annoying to users.....and override switches were fitted...
our last Bolero was changed to run from the hab batteries and could be isolated (if required) at the control panel, worked ok for us, the drain wasnt anything like as much as this (complex) Pioneer.
this current system definitely runs from the cab battery and is activated either by turning on the ignition (why does it do that every time without me turning it on??...) or by turning on the Entertainment button on the control panel (again, the unit fires up directly without 'turning it on')...
unless we specifically want it on, i then have to 'turn it off' (standby/drain) which takes several presses of the button/screen.... (you'll soon get the hang (pain) of it....
).having the small section of panel removed prevents the unit starting on its own, another boon...hurrah!
with this knowledge, and control, i would be happy to have it powered by the vehicle battery, but hab batteries would also be fine.
incidently, when off grid, knowing the level of draw, we dont use this unit. we have a small battery powered radio from Lidl (rechargable batteries) which seems to do the job very well.
good luck.
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