Spate of Caravan Theft

Wildwood

i agree that he security is tour responsibility but the professionals are very well equipped and all security devices can be overcome if the thieves have the time and equipment.

There are two principle markets for stolen caravans the first of which is the traveling community. I know it is politically incorrect to say that but it remains a fact and accounts for why twin axles are stolen in higher numbers than single axles. If you are to live in it then it makes sense to have as much room as possible.

The second market is Ireland and the continent, caravans are taken to the ferry ports and are away often before they are noticed missing. There are some other thefts for the domestic market but they are lower in number though. They would be sold on as private sales in the same way as some stolen cars so you have to be careful if buying privately.

The third answer is probably not, but it rarely happens as those stolen in the first two scenarios are rarely recovered, except if it is almost immediately. Those sold on to unsuspecting purchasers could be OK as they need to be in good condition to sell them on ,but by then they have probably been replaced by the insurer and it is not your problem.

benshepherd99

I have a TA Hobby and they are very desirable amongst the travellers.  However, I never ever leave my caravan without JSB Hublocks on, even when touring.  Take a look at their website - they are the ONLY security device that cannot be removed with oxyacet and to date there has never been a caravan stolen with JSB Hublocks on.  

Yes, they are a bit more of a hassle to fit and therefore many people won't use them when touring but for caravans in storage they are fantastic.  Personally, I can remove or install mine in about 6-7 mins and that is on a twin axle.  

People who have not actually physically seen the JSBs always seem to mention that the security bolts can just be removed.  They cannot.  Due to the design of the lock, the bolts are down quite a deep hole and you cannot bang another socket over them, nor will a locking wheel nut removal socket work - there just isn't the space.  I thought it would probably be possible to weld a nut onto the end of the locking wheel nut (something that I could easily do to any car locking wheel nuts in seconds), but again it is just not possible on the JSBs.  

I reckon I could remove any security device off a caravan in minutes and I am definitely not a caravan thief, but so far I cannot work out how to get JSBs off.

www.jsbhublock.co.uk

 

Tinwheeler

There's an unfortunate side to this in that fitting it means removing the van's wheels which is a pretty good anti-theft device in itself.

I'm a tad concerned both at the claims made regarding the inability to cut the locks off (incidentally, these seem to be 'winter wheels’) and by reports of the company contacting people who have experienced attempted theft. How does the company know of such cases?

This is the one and only post by benshepherd and I wonder if he has an interest in the company?

If I was contemplating a purchase, I’d check very carefully, not least because the financials of the company don't appear great to my untrained eye.

https://companycheck.co.uk/company/05899905/JSB-HUBLOCK-LIMITED/financials#key-financials

 

DSB

Really sad for anyone who has been effected by caravan theft - I still remember how we felt!  Sadly, the area quoted in the OP (which includes where we live), is well known as the caravan Bermuda Triangle.  The M1/M42/A5/M6/M40/M5 Midland corridor provides a quick getaway for the caravan thief, giving a wide variety of quick getaway options.  Living close to Tamworth, we now always choose a Gold Cassoa storeage.  Ours is commonly known as Alkatras or Fort Knox!!

David

DSB

......after saying that, I did hear from somewhere that, in recent years, there has been a fall in caravan theft.  Sadly, I can't remember where I heard this, but I seem to remember it was from some 'official' source?

David

cyberyacht

6-7 mins to fit or remove on a twin axle? Assuming it's one person to do all four wheels, that's faster than an F1 pit crew. In the words of Victor Meldrew......

GodivaNige

The published financials don’t mean anything.

The company has been created to run alongside other companies as a subsidiary... c/o Jackson, Wakefield etc

Many businesses do this, create companies alongside other companies, trading from the same address. This allows for ‘creative accounting’ nothing illegal, just widely used business practice. There are many highly successful businesses with multi millions in turnover, that have subsidiaries that don’t present glowing figures.

So while JSB Hublock Ltd might not show as being highly successful, it has likely been formed to support this one product, but is being financed by another company whilst keeping accounting separate.

Besides, all green arrows so trading is going in the right direction

 

Tinwheeler

I wasn’t for one moment suggesting there was anything illegal going on but thought it was something prospective customers might wish to investigate before parting with their hard earned.

PS. Out of interest, how come you dropped the 'Biker' bit?

GodivaNige

Biker bit?

Tinwheeler

Haven’t you changed your user name? I remember you as BikerNige, or maybe that was just my nickname for you.🤔

GodivaNige

Nope never been BikerNige, there was a profile photo of me on a bike, but for some reason it disappeared. 

 

Tinwheeler

That must have been my name for you. Yes, I remember the avatar pic. Many vanish but some reappear of their own volition.🙄

rayjsj

Check out the local Travellers sites, if its there, call the police, tell them you are armed and are there to take it back.....then wait for it all to 'Kick off'  only way the police will get involved. Unfortunately.

Milothedog

Then get arrested   Surely the best course of action would be to call your insurance company and tell them.