Elddis - any Hymer effect yet?

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  • Unknown
    edited August 2018 #62
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  • Boff
    Boff Forum Participant Posts: 1,742
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    edited August 2018 #63

    Tintent115, I applaud your crusade to get U.K. brands, to included some British made components, in the products that they sell.  Unfortunately I don’t see any prospect of success. 

     

  • Randomcamper
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    edited August 2018 #64

    I'm not on a crusade Boff at all, and happily drive a German car & ride a Japanese motorcycle, because they make the best product...wink

    But I did serve an apprenticeship in a large UK engineering firm years ago and it would be a great shame for British workers & future apprentices if those jobs are lost....

    I will "Buy British" if there is a reasonable product, I'm very happy with my half British AT M/H.....

    But looking on the bright side of the catastrophic crash of the pound against the Euro, it's going to help UK tourism & manufacturing/exporting . With two young adult children freshly started in the world of work, that is important to me.....

     

  • Boff
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    edited August 2018 #65

    My remark was tongue in cheek, but I am serious in my belief  that there is very little UK content in a UK caravan / motorhome.   So the majority of jobs involved in the assembly of them is relatively low skilled.   The fact that the pound has devalued relative to other currency’s is going to mean that the pricing of continental vans is going increase, but so is the price of UK vans. 

    Back to the topic. I looked at a 2018 Elddis yesterday, and there is sealent all over the place, including on one of the wheels.  The framing of the outside lockers should have been grey it was stained where sealant had been rubbed off.  This does not alter the functionality of the van one iota.  What it does say to me is a lack of care and attention to detail.  Which is sadly I wouldn’t consider one and it will amaze you that I would love to buy British but not to the extent of buying something I am not confident in the quality of the product. 

  • BlueVanMan
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    edited August 2018 #66

    What makes you think Hymers are better ?

  • JVB66
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    edited August 2018 #67

    But what that showed is the lack of PDI and or preperation for display by the dealer,has any one seen any continental europe LVs direct from the factory before going on display at the point of sale?

    most cars direct from factories need a good valeting before going in the show room

     

  • ocsid
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    edited August 2018 #68

    Now more than "think", after owning two of their caravans.

    Not that coming firmly to that conclusion re caravans brings me any pleasure, it would be supurb if we here could even match in the important to us areas of build integrity and user payloads.

     

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  • Boff
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    edited August 2018 #70

    Experience

     

  • JVB66
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    edited August 2018 #71

    Reading some later reviews of Hymer group LVs and they being in the UK a niche product compared with the thousands  of UK built that are in use here there  has to be be a bit of perspective in what is posted

  • Boff
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    edited August 2018 #72

    No.  It is too easy to blame a pdi.  Ideally a pdi should be done diligently and thoroughly but the inspection yields no faults.  Too often it seems to me that the pdi is the last step in the production process.   I have no idea if the sealant that was on the wheels was applied at the factory or at the dealers.   But I always think that I can see such obvious visible faults what about the bits I can’t see?

  • JVB66
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    edited August 2018 #73

    Dealers in the UK are "paid" by the manufacturers as part of their franchise to do pdi, but as often seems to be these days it is not carried fully, and the end user then finds something/s wrong ,and returns it which then is a "warranty claim" for which the said dealer get another "allowance" from the manufacturer to put rightundecided

  • Vulcan
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    edited August 2018 #74

    You have hit the nail on the head, I have a relative serving in the forces in Germany who is also a caravanner and he assures me that German caravan magazines have just as many complaints re faulty workmanship etc as we do.

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  • Potami Browns
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    edited June 2019 #76

    So Thor Industries (NYSE) have 100% of EHG in a share/cash deal concluded earlier this year. As far as I know the SLT at EHG UK (Elddis) are still in place and it looks like EHG in Germany are more focussed on North America expansion synergy with Thor.

    Perhaps this thread could be Re-ignited with comments about how Thor investment cash / Management resource will help the U.K brands via EHG that are now under their control?

    As a complete newbie to caravanning having yet to make my first purchase I have been on a mammoth research journey that has come full circle Swift back Swift and then on a tangent appreciating the Elddis Solid (monocoque bonded), automotive, marine hyped ‘no water can get in period’ narrative which I was buying into until my due diligence brought me to this thread and now I see Elddis have build quality / shell cracking issues as (apparently) unresolved?

    I have an engineering/ manufacturing / business / management consulting background but have yet to find ‘nirvana’ in any U.K based van manufacturer until I researched Elddis/Solid - a van maker using automotive and marine industry bonding standards? This looks good... or does it? Are panels still cracking? Can EHG (Germany) come to the rescue?

    Will a shed load of Thor Cash (They started turning around Airstream in 1980 and haven’t done too bad since the vast majority of them are still around!) get injected to produce the ultimate non leaking / non cracking van that doesn’t start to fall apart within the warranty? - somebody help me please or should I just bite the bullet and take out a mortgage on a branner Airstream from the good ole USA?!!

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  • Potami Browns
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    edited June 2019 #78

    Thanks for the heads up but easier said than done in my situation I’m afraid.

    Recently paid £41k worth of Range Rover Evoque kerb weight is 1750 and as a novice I can only safely tow circa 1500kg MTPLM for a 2000kg 120/150kg nose weight tow vehicle.

    I am north west based so nearest dealer is in Preston and they only do Eribas with 1800-2000 MTPLM

    So I would need to change tow vehicle to a Discovery or similar which the wife has already refused to do so soon.

    Our start up budget is £25k for a first van so we are short of 5-10k plus tow car change circa £20k plus depreciation so we may as well buy a new MH!🙃

    Looks like we will be renting a MH in the short term or buying a much older sorted van to try as I’m not willing to take the hassles of lower budget new caravanning and risk hard earned cash whilst the industry still makes leaky vans!