Motorhomers
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Or how many use the Internet and say "Stuff the Handbook"!
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Whilst I do not want to disadvantage anyone and accept some can't or don't want to use the Internet. I think we have to accept that providing detailed information in the handbook is going to be difficult. Clearly information on how to access the site and its facilities are the most important.
However, on the subject of distance to towns etc. It actually does better than the web site, with little symbols for town or village, shop, public transport and pub within 1 mile. The web sites does provide some of this information but only after you click on the correct tab.
However again quality control is an issue.👎
For Hawes it shows three off the symbols in the handbook but omits the shop within a mile. Although to be fair it does cover shops in the initial write up. Whilst on the web site, under the nearby tab, it mentions the town and shops but not the pub ☹️ or bus. Although the bus is mentioned in the site leaflet.
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How sensible. 😉
Access to the Internet whilst touring can be an issue. So since the club produce a handbook I can't think it can be unreasonable to include all relevant and factual information. As you say the distance to a village or town is unlikely to change regularly. Simple to state it's over footpaths or along roadways with or without a dedicated footpath.
From bitter experience, I read descriptions in the handbook as I would estate agents details. Look for what's missing rather than what's included 😉. Read between the lines too. These days we do have another tool in the Internet but years ago the handbook was all there was to base judgements on. I think it's very naughty to call a site by the town or village name to find it is several miles distant, I know they say x miles north for example but that's not in the info but at the top of the page where you might not notice 😉
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"I think it's very naughty to call a site by the town or village name to find it is several miles distant"....
Bakers, absolutely right...surely the worst (and most blatant) offender of 'hanging on' to a local tourist spot must be Bath Chew Valley....
the fastest route into Bath is actually 38 mins (13 ml), depending on traffic, in a car....over an hour and a half on a bike!
i guess Bishop Sutton Chew Valley doesnt have quite the same cachet?
pushing things to the limit, Id say.....and Im pretty familiar with this area...
très naughty, if you ask me.... some might say (with good reason) downright misleading...
in fact, its actually closer to Bristol....
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I think it's very naughty to call a site by the town or village name to find it is several miles distant,
How can it be naughty when it is done by those paragons of righteousness from Marketing?
Many, probably more than half, of The Caravan Club sites have had their name changed in the past few years (now there's a novel idea !!). All the ones I know have had the name of some town either added in front of the real location name, or a complete renaming after some apparent attractive place vaguely near at hand.
Ones you may remember include Invercauld becoming "Braemar", Strid Wood becoming "Bolton Abbey", Normanhurst Court becoming "Battle Normanhurst Court" - you get the idea.
If our membership is really that thick that they can't tell grass from hard standing when making a booking, these name changes can only confuse them further. Perhaps the idea was to make the locations sound more high class - but it has been as effective as making them motor caravan friendly by including "Motorhome" in the trading title.
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hence we use the C&CC site at Hudson Field, a 20 min stroll into town
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yes, Nav, marketing speak for 'nowhere near.....'....
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It's also a fair walk into the town from the Kendal site, even if one follows the old towpath, and I certainly would want to walk it along the road. And the Bourton site is even further away from the town. Why couldn't the Caravan Club's "powers that be" have left the site's name as Notgrove as that's where it located.
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Marazion (formerly known as Threeways) is not that close to Marazion! And trust me, getting a caravan through that tiny little town is a no no! Plenty of paint left on local properties will testify to this!
A good three mile walk in either direction, and very up and down on a bike!Sometimes, having a more obscure name is actually better, because it might make folks look it up and find out a bit more about the area? Nunnykirk for example? Low Moor? (Which is now North York Moors!)
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Lower Wensleydale is another one they have not changed to the town (Leyburn) it is right on the edge of. As the river and dale do not carry the same name, perhaps a change would have been a good idea. Dales are not exclusive to Yorkshire, so it does not even imply a county.
On the other hand they changed Grinlow to Buxton, which actually made sense.
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I started this discussion and it is very interesting to read all the comments. I note that some but not all of the caravaners still regard us motorhomers as young upstarts. Well I suggest that when next on site you look round and you will find that on average 40% - 50% of units on a site are actually motorhomes.
All I am trying to point out is that we should at least have up to date information available from the CLUB to at least make a meaningful decision, after all it is to the club that we pay our dues and it is from the club that we expect to have accurate information
Some of the discussions say that when you arrive on site you would have seen how steep the hill is or how far away the bus stop is. Yes that is true and if we had gone in and said we are not staying we would have had a letter from the club stating we should give 72 hours notice. So that is a non starter.
We have just had a great week staying at Knaresborough and I noticed that not all people stuck to the 5mph rule. Come on folks there are children and old folks about. Have some consideration. It will not be long before we have speed cameras fitted. There's another rant for you to have a go at me for and before you say it I always stick to the 5mph rule on site
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What do you think about dogs on site, GH? You seem to have covered most other things.
(Joke - see the smileys)
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"Young upstart" ? Sounds rather the reverse to me.
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I note that some but not all of the caravaners still regard us motorhomers as young upstarts. Well I suggest that when next on site you look round and you will find that on average 40% - 50% of units on a site are actually motorhomes.
Not my general observation of proportion of motorhomers to caravans. I have been on sites where motorhomes appear to be about 40% but on other sites closer to 20%. I think it varies greatly from site to site although the proportions are not important.
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The time of year may also have a bearing on the ratio.
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It may well make a difference cyber. For a start of the sites less used by motorhommers they are more likely to be the ones that close in Winter I suspect due to their location.
Maybe MH users are more active in Winter than caravanners are. I wouldn't know as we only go away to the Southport site for a 2 week stay over Christmas and otherwise do not use sites much after start of October until April.
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As I was coming down the coast roads from Whitby passing Scarborough, Bridlington & Filey I saw 9 Moho's & 3 C/vans. There is a big increase on the East coast routes of Moho's. Not scientific accepted but more than I've seen for years. I like the fact that there's rarely a tailback forming behind Moho's
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Ditto, I have but not as many times as C/vans on the Coastal routes, it is obviously harder getting started after slowing to a stop with 40' rigs-similar to trucks I guess
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....and, by the same token, we're regularly held up by caravans as theyre limited to 50 on A roads....
the thing is, on a single carriageway road, it doesnt really matter if youre in a caravan or a MH as we will all be held up by a 40mph truck....or other slow vehicle..
at least on the dual carriageways (and motorways) we can leave all the caravans behind
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It depends on the location of the site it seems, as the majority of motor caravans seem to be used like a caravan, but without the versatility of the tow car,so they need to be near other forms of transport to get around
or a Friend with a tow car
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.....but many dont/cant....
i realise the limit has been raised from 40 to 50 but this hasnt made a lot of difference on twisty single carriageway roads as the vehicles cant take advantage....40 mph (or less) queues behind lorries are still common place.
still, ill wave to you as we go past
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....but that would mean a motorhomer being friends with a caravanner, wouldn't it?
chalk and chicken, AMOBUTS
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