Wi-fi on Club Sites
Comments
-
i. not going to debate this with you as i am having a lovely day (coffee) in the sunshine, however you obviously didnt note that i had mentioned Crealy (which is in Devon) to give a comparison that a decent wifi service to many hundreds of users is perfectly possible if the service is designed, implemented and managed correctly......wherever it is.
also, just to update your creepy 'factfile' on me, (and i thought Moulsey was 'overly interested') we have used enough club sites to know that the service overall isnt good, my OH foolishly paid £25 for the very dubious privilege....we now invariably use (share) my phone hotspot unless we are at a site with proper wifi facilities...as in the two (distinctly different) sites in my example.
we wont be renewing, and if i was able id have got my money back as it was as close to missold as you can get.....
i only replied here to be polite, despite you persistent attempt to antagonise....
i wont be replying to you again, thank you.
carry on in your own little world where everything CC is without fault, even when its crap
BTW, im not on 'holiday' im just living somewhere else for a couple of months.....
0 -
I think in some cases the vans themselves can cause an issue, depending on relative positions to the repeaters. A few years ago we went to Longleat. We pitched and settled and then tried to access the wifi without success. Longleat is a very tree covered site. I went to talk with the warden who showed me a map of the site with colour codes for how good the wifi was. We were in a poor area. However, the next day a couple of vans between us and the repeater left and nothing occupied the pitches. The wifi was then fine for the rest of our stay.
It probably would not have been an issue on a less tree covered site as more than one repeater would have been in range. However, reduce it to just the one in our area, throw in some obstructions, and no wifi unless I wandered away from the van.
1 -
thanks for the reply BB. I have to say you do seem to blame your OH for a number of bookings that you didn't want
PS Crealy isn't a club site? I though you were complaining about club site Wifi?
2 -
Other than more devices using the system and making it even more unreliable than it already is, there's no reason at all why the club shouldn't increase pitch or membership fees so we can all enjoy 'free' wifi, Wex.
Personally, I don't want to be forced to pay for a second rate system every time I use a club site.
0 -
There could be a "repeater" for every pitch and it still would not work if it all goes down a 1950s bit of twin copper wire for some many miles to a rural exchange.
The sites I have visited where the wifi provided a workable service did all seem to have something in common - a small microwave dish on the pole of the main wifi unit.
1 -
We have been on two cl s and one club site in august .
I saw this thread and I was just going to ask why is it that wifi is free on cl s and then charged for on club sites .
i think it should be free . . But then I don't down load data . I just browse google maps for routes or look at what's on in the area .
I can use my phone for this as well as I have some wifi on there .
0 -
Well, it's been raining all afternoon, so I've had chance to do some checking.
7 nights arriving next Sunday, 2 adults & 2 children ( up to 17) -
Crealy super pitch = £316, Ramslade service pitch = £206.50, so over £100 more for those "free" extras and no matter how good the wifi is that seems extortionate to me. But then I guess it's down to individual choice and most folk are "savvy enough" to know that it's not actually "free".
Oh, and if you want a second car on your pitch it's £3 a night, that's a whacking 50% more than at Ramslade!
0 -
Everything you browse involves downloading data.
As we keep saying ad nauseam, wifi cannot be free. It will always have to be paid for one way or another.
2 -
sunday 3rd sept, 2 adults (us, no kids) std pitch with electric (ALL pitches have water and drainage on the pitch..) £117, yes, includes wifi and (heavily) discounted park tickets for all five days.
.and now youve alerted me to the non-ehu option, i can have the pitch for £92.....and if i arrive on the monday, a day later, the pitch is only £80.
Ramslade price £109 no water/drainage (club charges around £4 a day for this) no wifi.....so, i could easily say Ramslade was poorer value
no doubt folk will be 'savvy enough' to see good value....
...and i did this outside as its definitely NOT raining
1 -
Good points BB and it just goes to show the futility of making price comparisons between different sites, home or away, to prove a point!
At the end of the day it's up to folk to do their own research and choose whatever they feel gives them best all round value - for many people that's club sites ( and they shouldn't be criticised or belittled for that), for others it's one of the many alternatives out there.
1 -
....and they shouldnt be belittled for that, either
0 -
I would be nice if it were free but I would prefer it if we paid more and the service was improved so that wifi can be used on all sites that would allow some sort of streaming without waiting for ages. £25 a year is cheap. It could be doubled if the service was super fast.
0 -
Not sure. As said many places offer "free" WiFi but usually with limitations. Many people now have mobiles with data allowances adequate for themselves. We've considered paying the £25 but been for 7 nights to Nunnykirk where there is no WiFi (yet). They've only got a decent mobile signal in the last couple of years. Mostly we go to CLs where rarely is there WiFi, but more and more are. I assume putting good WiFi on a Club site is bit more expensive than your local pubs cost. How are they to cover the cost?
0 -
"How are they to cover the cost?"
By increasing other fees.
1 -
....because i took my granddaughter with us....
not only that, we happen to like wandering about the theme park and animal park as a break from being out and about.
in fact, those heavily discounted tickets can be 'validated' to last for many days rather than the single day which applies to non-touring guests.... so popping back in on any day of your stay is possible withput further charge.
thats why, Kev
0 -
I usually buy mine at £10 per week as and when I need it. Providing access is ok. I think that this is affordable. It is of great help, if you need to use the web regularly.
I think that we should be grateful that we have access to this facility and I wouldn't expect it for free.
Everything has a price and I wouldn't expect someone who doesn't need web access to have to pay for mine. I think the price is right.
Also, for those of you who need to use more than one device for access. You will need to log off one device, before connecting another. I have found this to be a bit fiddly.
Using this link http://logmeoff.net will take you to a page where you can disconnect your device. Simply turning off your Wi-Fi connection is not sufficient. Hope this helps ?
2 -
The reason that you have to log in using your own username and password is that all content viewed is held against your name. Whereas if you had an open service either free or just password protected means that the person who the broadband/wifi is registered to is responsible for any content viewed.....
0 -
Something that is often overlooked in this discussion is the cost of operating a WIFI service on a campsite. If the performance is too be good for everyone there needs to be a number of transmitters spaced round the site, you can spot them at the top of poles or attached to buildings. Installing and maintaining a system like this costs thousands of pounds. So the issue for me is does it work? (because it often doesn't in my corner of the site). Then what are the site fees? If I'm paying £30 + a night then It could be argued that the WIFI could be included. If they are £25 or less then maybe I'm more sympathetic to the owners and consider paying extra to be OK - as long as it works!
1 -
You wrote
"sunday 3rd sept, 2 adults (us, no kids) std pitch with electric (ALL pitches have water and drainage on the pitch..) £117, yes, includes wifi and (heavily) discounted park tickets for all five days."
note the no kids, then in your reply you say you took your granddaughter, a totally different reason for going, for us it would be one of our worst nightmares ( not taking the granddaughters out)
hope you had a great time😀
2 -
i quoted the price as '2 adults no kids' as she was less than one yr old and we were charged for 2 adults no kids.....
she, and we, enjoyed it immensly, thanks....in fact (although we are many miles away in Spain) we just spoke to her mum and dad and she is at Crealy this weekend with them.....priced 2 adults, no kids
no doubt, they'll all have a good time, too....
back OT, IMHO, the wifi should be free at all club sites, to charge and not deliver (consistently) is not good enough.
poor wifi is a recurring theme on CT, and passing a site off as 'bronze' or whatever is just an excuse for poor service.
as i mentioned elsewhere, we were on a site on the Dordogne and it was many miles from any large town, certainly a long way from the nearest 'exchange' yet the free wifi was spot on.
we have an annual 'ticket' but the service we got at Hillhead (IIRC) was not very good....my phone worked far better...
0
