Getting Young people into the club
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Is this a joke Marcus?
Surely, people can find plenty of information online for themselves?
Why should the CMC or CCC ..... or any other club pay to provide "information boards" to dealers?
The dealers should provide the correct information and advice if they are good and honest dealers who want to make a sale! There should be no need for "information boards"
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There's another topic running on the CAMC's negative policy with regard to 'camper vans' which are vehicles with rooftop tents.
Not very encouraging to young couples is it?
I say 'young couples' since I would think one needs to be fairly gymnastic to go up to bed, although the motivation is a wonderful thing, by which I mean that if it's the only way one can afford/enjoy the wandering life then we could all probably climb up to bed. After all, it could be one's everyday transport, easy parking with no storage concerns...........
If they pay full pitch price I can't see why there's a restriction. After all the Mazda Bongos and the little 'pop top' Romahomes aren't very different.
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Yes, I agree that there are always going to be the exceptions - of course there are- the youngsters who are in great jobs or who put everything they have into a particular lifestyle but I believe in general that isn't the case. Newquay is a surfing centre so that's going to attract the younger set, and I doubt that you will see many children with them?? My SIL has an excellent job and is paid an amazing wage but when an ex council house costs £250,000 and he has 2 kids it's hardly surprising that young couples like him don't have a VW standing on the beach or a caravan in storage.
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my daughter and SIL have just bought a campervan/PVC (private conversion on a used Ducato) and we had it here 'doing up' (as Jay described) going through all the services, making changes and adding an extra bed, etc...
they have a shower and a toilet so are really self contained, even more so than the typical VW based units, and managed to get this one for an awful lot less than a T5...
however, to 'where' they will use it....
firstly, CC doesn't even exist in their eyes....daughter a teacher and prices will be an issue....certainly for sites that dont provide a lot of 'interest' for a young couple and baby...
they have used it twice so far, recently nr Burton Bradstock....now, this site was more than a typical CC site, BUT it was on the beach, had two swimming pools, great restaurant/bar/terrace views over the sea which they found desirable....
as they get more into it they will 'do a few festivals'.... BIL does a few and will drag them along, they always do Glastonbury (on our doorstep) and would love the comfort of a van in lieu of the tent...
im also sure that they will venture abroad with us as soon as GD gets her passport.
once they have tasted a few different options theyll find their own style, probably Newquay included.
as they are self contained, there is a possibility they might look at CCC membership for the THS network.....a few days (say 3) in the New Forest with a THS is less than £25 whereas a CC site in the same area is around 3 times that price.
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Young or old, rich or poor, what seems to put people off caravanning (whether motor or trailer) is the cramped lack of space. And the bad design, such as where to open a door one has to first close two others.
So those who like, or at least can put up with, the cramped conditions will be able to be attracted by caravans. Those with claustrophobia or liking for space and light just won't.
Similarly, those who want, or need, the predictable standard of construction, use and cleanliness of toilets, etc will be attracted to The Caravanning Clubs (see what I did there!!). Those who are happy with taking a chance on site facilities will do so.
I personally think that this Club will always have an older profile clientele as it is as people age that they have the time and money to use what it offers.
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I personally think that this Club will always have an older profile clientele as it is as people age that they have the time and money to use what it offers.
I think this is temporary, the next generation will not have such good pensions as many of todays pensioners and what with the potential demise of diesel and petrol engines, it is hard to see where the future of vanning is going.
peedee
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Why log-on to a forum such as this if not to either request or share information and experience?
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The CC forum is a good place to pick up technical information and site recommendations 😀
But it does scare me sometimes reading some of the requests for advice, that these people are allowed out by themselves, nevermind getting behind the wheel 😉
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I agree that the CAMC is turning into an old people's club. We recently spent a week at one of our sites in high season. A family of four cost £223 for seven nights. There were no children's facilities whatsoever or an onsite dog walk. I only saw one or two other children the whole week and they were being tut tutted at by some of the other older campers. One lot even moved pitch because children moved onto the pitch next to them. The wardens were strictly by the rule and closed the office at lunchtime causing a queue outside on the approach road. They even had the audacity to display a notice on the blackboard blaming the early arrivals for causing the queue. Half a day lost waiting to get on site. No wonder we can't attract younger members
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Priority 1 - at 12 Noon - Get Campers on to site - Full Stop.
Priority 2, 3, 4 etc - Anything else that does not include getting campers onto site.
We pay the Money to keep this "Club" running, We are the customer and the customer always comes first. Tea Breaks , Dinner breaks, cutting grass, mopping floors , etc etc, all fall in line Once the campers and very happy campers they will be too, when they have pitched up and have a beverage in hand.
At Chatsworth if there is a large queue to get on site the wardens walk back down the queue , getting names, advising pitch numbers etc, etc,
I was 12th in the queue once and was still on my pitch in 35 mins, works like a train there, why not anywhere else................. OMG its because there organised and used to dealing with high volume traffic.
Moan over
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Two wardens (both on the payroll) can work different hours - or even different shifts - or is that rocket science?
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The simple fact is at site arrival time the priority that I have seen displayed is to get arrivals on site. As for 'happy campers' I have never had a lot to be unhappy about.
No idea what the poster whittering on a few posts ago was going on about nor whereabouts as he did not say, In May this year I left the CC site at Old Hartley. I delayed leaving (still before departure time) until about 30 to 40 mins before arrivals were due as my next stop was at Berwick on Tweed with a 1pm arrival.
When I left there were three outfits (2 motorhomes and a cravan) parked outside the homes on the access road. Doesn't endear club members to local residents I suggest and totally selfish.
When we arrived at Berwick on Tweed it was 12.58pm. If I had been able to drive to the barrier and walk into reception it would have been seconds before 1pm. However there were at least 6 outfits on the access road,some of who, according to the warden had been there for more than half an hour and also a campervan parked out of the way on grass alongside the access road that had been there 45 mins. The staff's fault? I think not. I had just managed to clear the highway with the rear of the caravan. Yes the warden walked down the line asking if the non-drivers could book in whilst the outfits cleared the access and headed for pitches.
The warden could have let them in on arrival, in some cases 30 mins early. I wonder how early they would have arrived on their next visit?
If, for some reason, I wish to arrive early at a site (CC or private) I phone ahead and ask if I may do so. Don't blame wardens for selfish caravanners.
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And long may it continue.
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larger sites in France (perhaps a Club or Commercial equivalent here...) would have a dedicated team of office staf that cover the lunch break.
a typical office on a site like this would be open from 8am till nearly 10pm in summer...without closure.
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