Filling my Fresh water tank.
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now you're getting stroppy again...time for Bugs to arrive and close the debate, is it?
criticising others use/understanding of English puts you on extremely dodgy ground
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Not devisive at all BB. The CC provides the same level of service to all. It does not supply a drop in and fill service for those not stopping on site. A stance that I agree with. How can that be construed as divisive?
In resonse to othersI would say the same. We are all treated the same. Some motorhomers want hard standing.......guess what? So do I! Not available to the membership. Where is any of this unfair?
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Rocky, you have discovered the deep seated anti MH feeling that runs in some quarters.
I wasn't even aware of its existence as the majority of members are fair minded but, once the club changed its name to include MHs, there were numerous threads where it became evident that motorhomers are regarded as the spawn of the devil by some. Thank goodness it's not by all.
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BB - is the OP a regular wild camper? I wasn't aware of that.
I'm sure you're not deliberately misinterpreting my posts but you do seem to be trying hard for the "reading between the lines king" title!
OK, let me make my position clear then I'll leave the thread.
At no point have I said the OP should not be allowed to do what's asked for, either in the future or now. What I have done is to point out that there are contributors who stay on club sites far more regularly than you or me, who have outlined possible pitfalls given the layout of club sites at present. It's simply not as clear cut a situation as you seem to suggest. The argument that there won't be hoardes of MHs wanting to do this is neither here nor there since, certainly at the two club sites we've used this year, even two arriving and wanting to fill up at the same time could pesent considerable traffic flow problems.
I have suggested that the OP might spend their first night at a CL where they could fill their tank and then wildcamp for the next night or even longer if they wanted to. I'd have thought that would be more helpful to the OP than any "things must change and NOW" demand!
Anything unreasonable in any of that?
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Irrelevant in this instance, JVB.
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Did I mention you by name, Easy?
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Why should they be happy with being treated like a caravan owner,? Their needs and modus operandi are different is so many ways. If the Club cannot see that and some members keep negatively commenting against actual and suggested changes then there is no hope the change in name is going to have any impact on retention or increased membership in the growing market of motorhome ownership.
peedee
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What makes you think I have a problem arty? Iam not in the least bitter. Some of the MH owners seem to think that they are treated as second class citizens. No idea why. Peedee seems to think the needs totally different. Maybe it is me who does not grasp!
The sites provide a pitch with room to sit or put up an awning or canopy. Many motorhomers make similar use to caravanners. The normal pitch provides somewhere for a toad or tow car. Apart from poor provision for waste emptying how are MHs being disadvantaged. I cannot see it. Can you or PD enlighten?.
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Jay, really good post that gets to the nub of how difficult this club is going to find 'moving with the times'.
neither of the two specifics you mention require radical relaying of sites to acheive, merely the desire to get on and make it happen.
the discussed 'service' is available in virtually every town/village/campsite (even for non residents) in France yet it doesnt bring any of these to its knees when the odd van comes along looking for a water tap.
...and as for the HS booking saga......well....
i realise that some caravan users dont 'get' whats being asked for and it may well be that the layout of some of the current sites does not lend itself particulaly well to more than one MH looking to use the MHSP.
Hovever, if thats the case, then the design of these areas will need looking at as the number of vans wanting to make use of them is going to rise anyway due to the changing membership profile....and im talking about fully paid up members staying on site.
lets hope those in 'power' gradually learn a lttle more about those new (and existing) members that come under the umbrella of the 'extended' name.
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Your using words I did not use ET. i.e. totally different and disadvantaged. Of course I can manage just like a caravan owner but that is not why I purchased a motorhome, just to manage! If the choice is there, I want to reap the benefits of being able to tour with the minimum of effort and of course at a price which does not penalise me for facilities I can do without if I choose. I suspect that is not very different to most motorhome owners.
peedee
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dont get me wrong Alan, im advocating that members can book 'whatever' they want with an appropriately slick system.
ye, on a day like today, id like to be on grass...In fact, im on a grass pitch at a THS now....but thats another story.
.....Jays post (which i agreed with) is much more about whether the club really understands its (new, exciting) customer (member) base and whether it has the desire (or capability) to react and implement those ideas that come back from their 'extensive customer research'.
they might do....in the long run, but on current evidence (new CT debacle, HS booking saga etc) its going to take something seismic to effect a change (mainly of mindset).
now, i fully inderstand that many are more than happy with the way things are. probably caravanners who book in December every year and wouldnt go anywhere other than a club site.
nothing wrong with that in an unchanging market place, but the effect of seriously growing numbers of MHers within the club will require more than standing still to match the services offered to these members' requirements.
i wonder if Grenville has taken a month out in a MH to get the feel of how they vary in usage from a caravan? i doubt it somehow.
much easier to conduct a survey and then......
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I was not quoting you PD but thought that you may be able to explain.
I suspect that is very much the same for caravanners PD as to what you wish. Many caravanners and motorhomers use there own facilities put pay for sites that provide facilities. I cannot see that changing. Similarly I cannot see not having to pay for EHU on a standard pitch happening for members.
What is the difference in MH and CV user needs PD?
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i didnt say 'pitch usage'
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What new company? The Caravan Club is still the registered name of this company. The company is now using the brand name "The Caravan and Motorhome Club". I do think your assertion is correct though, that there is an increased perception of difficulty between some members. I think the stupidity of the clubs management is the sole cause. The whole attempt to rebrand has been a PR cock up.
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