Hot water issue

Bonneville70
Bonneville70 Forum Participant Posts: 24
edited January 2017 in Motorhomes #1

Autocruise Stardream.

If I turn the mixer taps to hot water nothing happens ie. no water comes out of the tap and the pump does not come on. If the cold tap is running and I turn the tap to hot, the water goes off and the pump goes off.

This has occurred since I drained the system down for the winter. I have bled the system as best possible to no avail. The heater fitted is a Truma Combi 4.

Can anyone help me with some advice on this problem please?

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  • young thomas
    young thomas Forum Participant Posts: 11,356
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    edited January 2017 #2

    sounds like the system would be similar to what we had on the Bolero (and on our current van) in that it is a pressure based system where the water pump will run if the pressure in the pipe is low...tap open...and stop when pressure is high....tap closed....

    this indicates that you have some sort of blockage in the hot system...

    i assume all hot taps (sink, washroom, shower) are affected in the same way?

    if so, the blockage is at or close to the tank.

    perhaps the draining down caused an issue of some sort...

    i would go through the draining process again and refill the hot tank from scratch, and try again.....

    sorry, can thelp more than this...

  • Navigateur
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    edited January 2017 #3

    Is the hot tank drain open?

  • MichaelT
    MichaelT Forum Participant Posts: 1,874
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    edited January 2017 #4

    Has the dump valve activated on the Truma heater?

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited January 2017 #5

    Assuming that the manual drain valve has been closed it sounds like an air block. I often find that it takes far longer  for the hot side to get up and working compared to the cold. I would go along with BB's suggestion of dumping the water out of the system by using the manual flip drain valve and refilling the system but wait until the pump stops before operating the taps. You may well still get a lot of hissing and spitting from the hot tap until you get the air out of the system. Alternate between hot and cold and hopefully the hot side should start working normally. In such circumstances, once the problem seems to be corrected that the water can take a long time to heat up on electrics as a secondary issue. If that happens try it on gas and you should be OK.

    David

     

  • young thomas
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    edited January 2017 #6

    If there were an air lock or the hot water tank were drained, the water pump would still run as it does when draining.

    the only time the pump stops is when the system is fully pressurised, hence my suspicion of a blockage 

  • Bonneville70
    Bonneville70 Forum Participant Posts: 24
    edited January 2017 #7

    Thanks all for your advice/information. Have tried a number of ways to get the water through but no luck. Have a few things left to try though.  

  • young thomas
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    edited January 2017 #8

    are all the hot taps 'blocked' or just one (or two)?

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited January 2017 #9

    It would also be interesting to know whether you can hear air escaping from the taps, like a hissing sound?

    David

  • young thomas
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    edited January 2017 #10

    agree with David, when venting the system after a draindown, you will/should be getting lots of spluttering.

    also, did you hear the hot water boiler filling as you put water in... with the pump on, this is the first thing that will happen as cold water from the fresh tank is drawn into the combi boiler.

     

  • antirampman
    antirampman Forum Participant Posts: 21
    edited January 2017 #11

    Check that the non return valve in the supply from pump to water heater is not stuck closed. also some vans have an isolator valve in the hot water supply so that you can use the cold water system without filling the boiler, check this is not closed if fitted.

  • Bonneville70
    Bonneville70 Forum Participant Posts: 24
    edited February 2017 #12

    Further to this issue.

    The problem was caused by a non return valve coming adrift in its housing, being forced forward by the water pressure and becoming jammed in a pipe elbow thus blocking the flow of water to the heater. New non return valve has been fitted.

    Thanks to all for your suggestions.

     

  • ABM
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    edited February 2017 #13

    Thank  you  for  the  results,  Bonneville  !!

     

    It's  nice  to  get  that  response  from  a  person

    who  has  had  problems  !!

    smile

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2017 #14

    Yes thank you Bonneville, so many times a lot of help is offered on CT to OPs questions/queries for no updates or whether any were helpfull to be forth coming, glad you are sorted