New motorhome VED rates
We are looking to buy a new motorhome next spring but are concerned that we will be lumbered with the excessive VED rates for vehicles costing over £40,000 due to be introduced in April 2017. Can anyone enlighten us as to whether the extra £310 on top of
the flat rate £140 will apply to motorhomes? All the dealers say "don't worry, it doesn't apply" but they're not the ones who are going to have to pay £450 a year for five years!
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Information is on the DVLA website.
Motorhomes are in M1 SP (special purpose ) and will be affected by the April 2017 change. Pay extra for 5 years.
can you buy buy and register before April 1st Thus avoiding the extra charge?
Taxation Class on our Laika ( 2016 ) is PRIVATE HGV. Body Type MOTOR CARAVAN
Someone in one of the Motor Home Mags has had his registered with the CO2 figures filled in. The DVLA then used that. Tax for his vehicle is something like £800 a year and DVLA will not alter it.
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I know some will say if you can afford £40k plus on a vehicle then you should be able to afford the extra road tax but this is simply a further tax on us........for no apparent reason. On a vehicle of that value you already pay more VAT than that on cheaper
vehicles, why get you on the road tax as well? Add this to the fact that you'll soon have to pay even more to drive them near or in a city ( diesel engine ) then it becomes a joke. The country will grind to a holt. Mind you, the love of going away in my van
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I find all this really quite odd. Given that much of a motorhome's life is spent either not in use at all ( between trips ) or on a site and not actually on the road, why penalise by adding an additional VED charge ? In the last 12 months we have only been
" on the road " for a little over 7000 miles, hardly a large amount by any standards....
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Thanks for the replies everyone. I can foresee a rush to pre-register new vans before April and sales of 'pre-owned' vehicles go through the roof! The whole VED system looks like an over complicated nightmare designed to extract the maximum amount of money.
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I would have no problem at all in paying it if it could be ring fenced for road improvements. Particularly filling in some of these horrendous craters, called pot holes. That even blight our motorways. However, J2 makes a good point about distance covered.
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Table 1 – Vehicles included in the new scheme
Category M
Category M1
Category M1 Special purpose (M1SP)
Category M1 (M1G)
Category De nition
Motor vehicles with at least four wheels designed and constructed for the carriage of passengers
Vehicles designed and constructed for the carriage of passengers and comprising no more than eight seats in addition to the driver’s seat.
Passenger carrying vehicles which
are designed and constructed for special purposes. Vehicles which are type approved as M1 Special Purpose are as follows:• motor homes/caravans
• ambulances
• wheelchair accessible vehicles • armour-plated vehicles, and
• hearsesDesigned for off road use and meeting designed criteria.
Copied from DVLA website
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I find all this really quite odd. Given that much of a motorhome's life is spent either not in use at all ( between trips ) or on a site and not actually on the road, why penalise by adding an additional VED charge ? In the last 12 months we have only been " on the road " for a little over 7000 miles, hardly a large amount by any standards....
I agree, we only do just over 2000 miles a year in ours. Mind you, we're not planning on changing it for a very long time yet so it'll be a while before the new tax hits us hopefully.
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This is scary stuff, coupled with the harmful diesel engine. We're all doomed!
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Might boost second-hand values as they will have historic VED rates.
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SteveL Re; “…It would make far more sense if a road fund element was applied to fuel.”
Please!!, please!!! do not encourage any chancellor to go down that route, because the next one to come along or even the same
one will notice the lack of VED and re-impose it without reducing the element already imposed on fuel.0 -
Motorhome Matters Forum has a useful thread running on this topic including informed comment from the DVLA on motorhomes. In simple terms, if the dealer registers a new van correctly, then my understanding is the new rules will not apply to motorhomes.
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Motorhome Matters Forum has a useful thread running on this topic including informed comment from the DVLA on motorhomes. In simple terms, if the dealer registers a new van correctly, then my understanding is the new rules will not apply to motorhomes.
I think that was a similar conclusion came to in the letter mentioned by Brue above. It seems if emissions are omitted from the certificate of conformity it won't be registered in the same way as a car?
David
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I understand this to get for cars, coach built and A class are registered as private light or heavy goods so not included some no emissions are registered. however I am not so sure about pvc these may come into play if they have emissions registered.
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Hi,
According to a pdf I've seen produced by DVLA if there are no emmisions declared then it will be PLG. If there is an emission figure declared then it will be in the M1SP category so will be subject to the much higher VED.
Google "DVLA VED from April 2017" and you should see the pdf link in the results.
Rgds
JOHN
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New rules apply from 1st April.
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I wonder how all this ties in with the Ultra low emissions zones due in 2020. If emissions are not declared on the VED will they be banned from these zones? Just a thought.
peedee
Write your comments here...that would be 99% of motorhomes ! bit drastic and draconian.
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I wonder how all this ties in with the Ultra low emissions zones due in 2020. If emissions are not declared on the VED will they be banned from these zones? Just a thought.
peedee
Write your comments here...that would be 99% of motorhomes ! bit drastic and draconian.
I doubt the authorities will be concerned, they weren't when the London LEZ was first introduced. Even now, there must be many motorhomes which still cannot go to the Abbey Wood site.
peedee
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I wonder how all this ties in with the Ultra low emissions zones due in 2020. If emissions are not declared on the VED will they be banned from these zones? Just a thought.
peedee
Write your comments here...that would be 99% of motorhomes ! bit drastic and draconian.
I doubt the authorities will be concerned, they weren't when the London LEZ was first introduced. Even now, there must be many motorhomes which still cannot go to the Abbey Wood site.
peedee
Write your comments here...mmm, its getting more and more tempting to use a false number plate, all these draconian laws and private parking firms using ANPR, hardly any ACTUAL mobile police patrols, policing by consent is losing all of its goodwill.
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