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i see the Eterniti weighed bang on 2 tonnes, so a meaty towcar required to pull it, no doubt.....
and as CY says, for a slide out caravan, adding weight will just push the towcars ever larger...
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Thats true but club sites are already awash with towcars like that.
Oh for a world where one could just turn up have a look around for a pitch that suits and go elsewhere if one couldnt be found
...I think that can be done in some countries with plenty of space and thousands of sites just not on small islands
Thats why we go there but Slovenia, Austria, Luxemburg and a few more could not exactly be described as big countries
...And their populations are?
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Well it might be but that is only because it is distorted by the low density in Wales, NI and Scotland, which is only 68. Population density for England is 413.
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i see the Eterniti weighed bang on 2 tonnes, so a meaty towcar required to pull it, no doubt.....
and as CY says, for a slide out caravan, adding weight will just push the towcars ever larger...
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Thats true but club sites are already awash with towcars like that.
Oh for a world where one could just turn up have a look around for a pitch that suits and go elsewhere if one couldnt be found
...I think that can be done in some countries with plenty of space and thousands of sites just not on small islands
...keep up at the back, there.....(see a page or two earlier...)
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There was an Inos caravan slotted between my van and Nellie's van at Gwern-y-Bwlch site last year. No problems with spacing and it erected a full awning to boot. They still managed to fit the huge 4x4 on the pitch. Don't know how they did it but they did.
Seen a few Fifth wheelers that seem to manage as they don't seem to put an awning up.0 -
Interesting. We thought it was bound to cause some debate, and don't forget, the slide out doesn't have to be restricted to one side of unit only, some have two! At the moment, it looks as though it will be banishment to an allocated pitch, and possibly
not able to stay on selected sites!CY, you are partially correct about narrow lanes further West, although we stayed on a private site with a huge American unit 20 years ago on a regular basis. They parked up just above Bodinnick Ferry near Fowey, no chance of crossing river with it, so it
stayed put on site. They were full timers, and towed a car as well.But these new breed of sliders will go almost anywhere, travelling they are only size of a normal van or MH, and I mean small ones as well. The beauty is, the space is delivered where you need it, when on site. Personally, I can see them catching on once
folks realise just how much more comfort they could deliver. As for towing/driving them, folks will find a way, just as we have done!For takethedogalong - I hope you don’t mind my asking but does this mean you have a slide out type?
'As for towing/driving them, folks will find a way, just as we have done!'
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Dont we wish!
No, the comment regarding towing and driving was more in response to a post about them being heavy and requiring a big tow car with all the license restrictions blah blah. I merely meant that our generation had aquired the appropriate vehicle/ license to
do so, and I dont expect future generations to be less resourceful.Interestingly enough, someone has just posted regarding pitching with a Swift Basecamp caravan. Far from the usual pitch up car/van/awning lineup so beloved/required of CC, so my point about less conventional outfits has already been proven, albeit in this
instance quite a small scale. The future is arriving faster than many think!0 -
There was an Inos caravan slotted between my van and Nellie's van at Gwern-y-Bwlch site last year. No problems with spacing and it erected a full awning to boot. They still managed to fit the huge 4x4 on the pitch. Don't know how they did
it but they did. Seen a few Fifth wheelers that seem to manage as they don't seem to put an awning up.Wonder whatever became of them, as they were supposed to be signing on CT. It would be good to hear how they, or other's with slide-outs have managed.
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TDA, didn't 'our generation' het these license groups as a right?
i dont remember being that resourceful to get them....
i dont see many of my kids generation getting into HGV type lessons etc to go cravanning, i'm more inclined to think the market will change to suit the potential younger market...
with lighter caravans and easier to drive, lighter MH..
i see more of the basecamp type caravan and the HymerCar type Fiat based (cheaper) PVC vans taking the fight to VW..
it will be interesting to see how the market unfolds...
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Dont we wish!
No, the comment regarding towing and driving was more in response to a post about them being heavy and requiring a big tow car with all the license restrictions blah blah. I merely meant that our generation had aquired the appropriate vehicle/ license to
do so, and I dont expect future generations to be less resourceful.Interestingly enough, someone has just posted regarding pitching with a Swift Basecamp caravan. Far from the usual pitch up car/van/awning lineup so beloved/required of CC, so my point about less conventional outfits has already been proven, albeit in this
instance quite a small scale. The future is arriving faster than many think!Thanks for replying. I'm not sure I want the future to arrive any faster. As far as slide outs go just been looking at a King Aire - American. The guy called it a Bus but it was an amazing RV. .
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That is what the huge van was like at Bodinnick. Immense, with slide outs both sides. They used to work on the site farm, but decided to start up a window cleaning service, it went well, they ended up with lots of commercial contracts, retired early, went
to States and came back with the huge van. Nice life they had, moving about as the whim took them!0 -
The barrels don't count BB, only the actual caravan/MH.
6m required between facing walls of vans/MHs, only 3m between awning and adjacent car on next pitch, but I think you know that.
MH (5th wheeler) or caravan with slide out is quite a bit wider than a TA caravan.
Write your comments here...Not quite. The law is Only three metres if the awning is not slept in. If the awning is slept in, then 6 metres.
many years ago, back in the seventies, pitching rules were rigid, military in enforcement. Later, they were relaxed so we could pitch how we liked, subject to spacing law. I used to love parking my van across the pitch, awning forward. It is only recently
that someone in our club discovered that the law was being broken at Old Hartley and possibly other places due to wider cars and vans.The current rule was an instant reaction. There are many pitches in many sites where one could pitch any which way without infringing the law.
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The barrels don't count BB, only the actual caravan/MH.
6m required between facing walls of vans/MHs, only 3m between awning and adjacent car on next pitch, but I think you know that.
MH (5th wheeler) or caravan with slide out is quite a bit wider than a TA caravan.
Write your comments here...Not quite. The law is Only three metres if the awning is not slept in. If the awning is slept in, then 6 metres.
I have not seen anywhere were the recommendation refer to whether an awning is used for sleeping or not
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Depends how popular they become BMB, could the Club afford to put discriminatory widths in place? Could lose a lot of members.
They did it with lengths- didnt seem to bother them that it was discriminatory. One day a site was fine for any size if you could get it on and off and pitch it, next day with no change to the site it suddenly had a maximum length ....
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Depends how popular they become BMB, could the Club afford to put discriminatory widths in place? Could lose a lot of members.
They did it with lengths- didnt seem to bother them that it was discriminatory. One day a site was fine for any size if you could get it on and off and pitch it, next day with no change to the site it suddenly had a maximum length ....
The maximum length is essentialy that of the largest pitches. I can only assume before that longer vehicles stuck out or were turned away. The maximum length note on the site details is a neccessary evil.
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And so the managing of pitches by the wardens is a necessary evil. too.
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Depends how popular they become BMB, could the Club afford to put discriminatory widths in place? Could lose a lot of members.
They did it with lengths- didnt seem to bother them that it was discriminatory. One day a site was fine for any size if you could get it on and off and pitch it, next day with no change to the site it suddenly had a maximum length ....
The maximum length is essentialy that of the largest pitches. I can only assume before that longer vehicles stuck out or were turned away. The maximum length note on the site details is a neccessary evil.
Not so though, I have seen plenty of pictures of RV's well in excess of the lengths happily sitting on pitches at sites where they now exceed the maximum. Not sticking out, or causing anyone a problem. Of course the 'warden's discretion' allows them to
take units over the max but it is very rare that they will actually do it - far easier for them to say no.0 -
I find this very interesting, my brother had a company that made small. caravans , he then went into the commercial sector and the idea that small on the road big on the site mainly used at shows ect, the last unit he made for a company was only 2 metres
wide 4.8 mterse long twin axle. Now when it went into a exabition hall the A frame lifted off to reduce length because you are charged per sq mtr and the both sides slid out to give a width of 5 mtrs so you ended up with a unit nearly 5x5 complete with shower
ect all done with elecrick motors, if ever one of these units apeared at a club site it might cause the wardens a problem, has an extra a mast could be fitted that went up through the roof for communication ect all done by motors of course0 -
This really isn't a problem is it? If you have an oversized or unconventional unit and wish to stay on one of those sites with restrictions then just ask the staff and they'll help I'm sure. Better still, phone ahead for guidance. That's the beauty of, call it what you will, discretion or site management! You may not be on what is in you're terms that 'prime' pitch but you will be on one that fits your unit.
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I don't think that, in the long term, the CC will have to radically change their campsites. The future of caravanning is for smaller lighter caravans, able to be towed by smaller cars.--- the days of the massive caravans being towed by chelsea tractors
is numbered and during the next 20 years will all but disappear, -- apart from those being used by the travelling community.Cheers..................K
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Ok, so most, but not all, members are fairly clear about what sort of pitch they need, depending upon touring outfit. However, we have seen examples of rarities for sale that might just pose more of a conundrum for pitching up, and keeping the minimum distances
between the solid (ie, none awning) sides of a caravan or MH. Namely, slide out extensions, on both Caravans and MHs. Not the big fifth wheel types, but smaller type outfits. Comparatively rare at the moment, but given how quickly folks like to try something
new (fixed, transverse, drop down....etc...), then a small outfit offering such increased space might quickly catch on!But which pitch to book, which way around to pitch, could you still have an awning, can the car still go alongside? Or will it be banishment to the outer reaches, having to book two pitches, not allowed on certain sites?
All interesting debating points, or something for the Club to give us the definitive answer?
Write your comments here...hi there we did 10yrs with American RV,s,our biggest one being 38ft long ,diesel pusher quad slide outs and never had a problem with pitches or access.
Brian & Jo
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