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You seem to have only been using UK sites this year, BB, unless I've missed something. Are you missing the 'over there' experience?
that is correct TW...on both counts....
took ages in the Spring to move my parents into a new build bungalow (just a very slow process....) and our daughter has just had a baby girl, so we are (amongst other things) dog walking, taxi-ing, shopping, general fac totum...
OH mum lost her brother last week, so more supporting/arranging there.....
our MH pals' son has been in a tragic accident where a tree fell on him (latest count over 100 units of blood, two amputations (same leg, different places), clot on lung currently preventing required surgery to plate shattered pelvis....etc etc....
so, despite plans to run away as usual, these have all been up in the air, with us just squeezing in the odd week here and there...relatively locally...
we've had a couple of sun holidays earlier in the year (so vitamin D count ok)....now FIL wants us go go away with them to cheer up MIL.....again it will be hot.....but no van.
we hope the new year will be better fortune for our friends, but this will change their lives....we're just doing the support bit as best we can....
tough, i really feel for them...
Yes, I've commented on the recent unfortunate accident.
As I've been telling you for years, circumstances can affect our plans and wishes. Ah, well, there's always next year.
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I actually think the OP is being totally unrealistic in comparing CC site fees to those charged, or not, by state subsidised aires abroad. The two don't compare at all and I'm rather surprised at the OP. Moan about CC prices by all means (why not, nearly
everyone else does) and compare them with other UK sites but please dont try to compare chalk with cheese.0 -
I actually think the OP is being totally unrealistic in comparing CC site fees to those charged, or not, by state subsidised aires abroad. The two don't compare at all and I'm rather surprised at the OP. Moan about CC prices by all means (why not, nearly
everyone else does) and compare them with other UK sites but please dont try to compare chalk with cheese....+1
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Not at all. They are different countries with different taxation systems, different governments etc etc. And certainly not in UK Sites and Touring.
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There's nothing "valid" in quoting experiences in foreign countries then using them to knock the UK whilst forgetting they are not based on a level playing field.
Different economies, laws, taxes, etc etc apply in those countries. A like for like comparison which conveniently ignores these differences is therefore surely irrelevant?
Better to accept that this Section is for UK Sites & Touring with the purpose of "recommending favourite sites, ask questions, share advice and talk about UK trips"
Cheers
Bugs
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As you brought up the subject, Bugs.......could you please explain the differences in the economies, laws and taxation system of France and the UK, that lead to these startling differences in prices?
Or is this just a convenient excuse put forward by supporters of the CC high-price policy?
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Wharever posters on here might think about CC site prices being high the sites are, in the main, full. Try booking Scarborouh site. There are many members who will not consider going on any other sites. The prices are "what the market will bare"
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I think Bugs is correct, there is no place or point is discussing over there on the section called UK sites.
Ian, post that question in general chat, overseas sites or whereever, it has no place on this thread or section.
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But this isn't the place, Ian, and I'm sure you already know the answers.
To bring it back on topic. I was quite surprised at the price charged a few days ago at Burford CC site. £22.50 in Sept for a site with not enough service points seemed quite a lot and it's by no means the dearest site.
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For those who think the main sites are too expensive, try CLs where prices are much lower. If they don't like the idea of CLs then try another club or commercial sites. It is a matter of choice
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what a red herring and totally pointless post Ian, unless you can see something we can't about Scarborough all you can deduce is that there is at least one spare pitch on those avaiable days. Are you really expecting sites to be full in late September and October?
And of course all the non club sites are full. I wouldn't think you would get many sites full in September..
Opps I tell a lie, look at Rowntree Park, forgot to mention that one did we? Oh and look at Bridlington, oh, wait look at Melrose for the next two weeks.
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As you brought up the subject, Bugs.......could you please explain the differences in the economies, laws and taxation system of France and the UK, that lead to these startling differences in prices?
Or is this just a convenient excuse put forward by supporters of the CC high-price policy?
Bugs is a moderator........I'm sure he knows what's appropriate to post.
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I'll muddy the waters further! OP wants three days away on a Club Site, midweek, but expensive. So, do three days away on the Continent on the cheap sites then! But no, the ferry cost makes that rather expensive, so suddenly, the only place you can go looks
a whole lot cheaper. Especially as a three day trip isn't worth it all that way, cheap or not. It's all relative, and comparing a three day Club Site stay, with a three day stay overseas is not a valid comparison! sorry but it just isn't. You can only compare
the whole picture, not cherry pick the bits you like!Having said that, I do think some Club Sites are overpriced at certain times, but as they are not the ones I use, I ain't that bothered!
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For those who think the main sites are too expensive, try CLs where prices are much lower. If they don't like the idea of CLs then try another club or commercial sites. It is a matter of choice
It certainly is, KW, and I exercise choice all the time. Sometimes a CC site fits the bill, sometimes not. I said I was surprised at the CC price but I still paid it because it suited me to. Now I'm on a delightful full facility CS at £14 p/n because it
suits. I know the alternatives well.0 -
For those who think the main sites are too expensive, try CLs where prices are much lower. If they don't like the idea of CLs then try another club or commercial sites. It is a matter of choice
You are absolutely right KW! I often wonder how it can be that folk who have caravanned for many years have still not twigged that!
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Unless comparisons are on a like for like basis this type of discussion can become a bit pointless. However for what it is worth we have just stayed on a summer season only site in Austria at about £36/night which included a shop open early til late, cafe,
free wifi 2 hours each day, travel pass giving unlimited free travel on all local bus services, free use of all ski lifts in the area and free parking in nearby towns, plus other discounts. We also stayed on an all year round site in Germany at £19/night with
free electricity, free 24/7 wifi, and a good, quiet bar/restaurant. On the way out we stayed at Black Horse on a fully serviced pitch for £30/night without being able to access the club wifi...... although in itself its not a bad site its not great either.
Ultimately no one is forced to use club sites, there are plenty of commercial, CL etc options available which we often use for a variety of reasons.0 -
In France we can use free aires or pay around €12 Euros a night at this time of year.
Write your comments here...
This doesn't give the full picture!
1) Not all aires are free although they are usually cheaper then campsites. (I say usually because we found one which was the same price as a nearby campsite if using the acsi card - 13 euros and no tourist tax.)
3) Your price of "around 12 euros" seems low - even sites which give a discount with acsi card are usually 13,15,17,or 19 euros, frequently with tourist tax to be added (although a small number of sites are 11 euros with the acsi card).
3) Comparing an aire (especially a free one) to a CC site is meaningless.
As has been pointed out there are alternatives to CC sites.
During the recent school holidays we stayed at a CCC Temporary Holiday Site in a North Yorkshire seaside town for £11.50 per night which included use of toilet and showers.
Over the recent Bank Holiday weeknd we stayed on a pleasant site on the edge of the Yorkshire dales on a hardstanding pitch with ehu, toilets, wash basins, showers and washing up facilities for £14 a night.
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Not at all. They are different countries with different taxation systems, different governments etc etc. And certainly not in UK Sites and Touring.
My point was primarily that the Club have increased charges well over and above inflation in recent years and for us as pensioners that has put them into a bracket we will not pay. That relates absolutely to the heading 'UK sites and Touring' it was posted under.
The secondary, subsidiary point, was that when in France we pay a lot less by comparison.
Yes, Tinwheeler, each country has difference taxation systems but the Caravan Club has preferential treatment in every sense in the UK system compared to commercial sites so your comments on that are just not relevant.
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Not at all. They are different countries with different taxation systems, different governments etc etc. And certainly not in UK Sites and Touring.
My point was primarily that the Club have increased charges well over and above inflation in recent years and for us as pensioners that has put them into a bracket we will not pay. That relates absolutely to the heading 'UK sites and Touring' it was posted
under.
The secondary, subsidiary point, was that when in France we pay a lot less by comparison.
Yes, Tinwheeler, each country has difference taxation systems but the Caravan Club has preferential treatment in every sense in the UK system compared to commercial sites so your comments on that are just not relevant.
Nope, you've lost me there. Preferential treatment for CC in every sense? Are they exempt from paying business rates, tax, VAT, utility bills, minimum wage rules..... ? What are you suggesting and what comments aren't relevant?
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Not at all. They are different countries with different taxation systems, different governments etc etc. And certainly not in UK Sites and Touring.
My point was primarily that the Club have increased charges well over and above inflation in recent years and for us as pensioners that has put them into a bracket we will not pay. That relates absolutely to the heading 'UK sites and Touring' it was posted under.
The secondary, subsidiary point, was that when in France we pay a lot less by comparison.
Yes, Tinwheeler, each country has difference taxation systems but the Caravan Club has preferential treatment in every sense in the UK system compared to commercial sites so your comments on that are just not relevant..explain please?
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