How to tell people?
There are a lot of threads on Club Together where posters report inappropriate behaviour by other users of the site. There are many suggestions that the transgressor should be "spoken to", and the purpose of this thread is to collect together suggestions
for methods that have been used successfully in the past for our members to do this in a friendly and non-threatening manner.
This is direct contact by the member rather than simply going to clype to the Wardens, who in many cases have something else to be doing.
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, DIPLOMASY RULES !!
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As a first approach something like this in a polite tone of voice -
"Excuse me but I wonder if you'd mind turning your TV volume down as it kept us awake until 3am last night".
And take it from there.
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I thought yours was already titled "You can't use this" . . . !
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I could have done with a method at Uttoxeter this week one van had a really bright and hideous green light that seemed to be under the caravan and was on 24/7 the wardens were busy with racing but I felt what a waste of electricity. Had I been pitched where
it shone on me I might have plucked up courage to say something so I just grumbled each time I took the dogs out. Strangely they packed up and left at 10.30 pm!0 -
What do you say to one of the nature loving campers who brings a large bird feeder station with about half a dozen seed feeders and bird bath and erects it between your pitch and theirs?
Most of the surrounding wildlife decides to investigate the free food on offer and settles down on your tent, caravan or motorhome to wait their turn.
Of course, while waiting they decide to defecate on your property and constantly chatter to each other especially in the early morning.
This annoying problem can be easily discouraged.
I've found an air rifle, cleaned and checked while the errant camper is watching, casually placed within reaching distance of my camping chair seems to discourage the camper from refilling the device.
Not a word of discontent need be uttered - but the nature loving camper soon gets the message.
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Having a cat helps too.
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Having a cat helps too.
or even a dog tied up outside your van. However one doesn't need a bird feeder close by for birds to mess on ones van. The starlings are expert at it at the moment, with all the berries on the Rowans and Hawthorns, and Robins love lodging on towbars and
aquarolls and leave little messages.0 -
Having a cat helps too.
Got one, and its big enough to take down magpies, seagulls, etc.
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Engage in polite conversation to get to know the people a little better first. Ask where they come from and if they are enjoying their holiday etc. Tell them a bit about yourself. Jest as they are about to go, say, 'Oh, by the way, I wonder if you would be so kind as to........'
Usually works for us....
David
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or even a dog tied up outside your van.
Is that to be in the style of dead rooks tied up on fences?
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I decide to confuse them with a statement that flummocks them, along the lines of
"I've decided that you should have your dinner at 8.30 tonight. It seems only fair as you kindly decided what time I should be allowed to go to sleep last night"
Doesn't always work, mind you.
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I have been pondering this "green light" thing and have not yet come up with a technical reason for it, though I have seen something similar under modified motor vehicles. Do we perhaps have "boy racer" caravaners - or whatever the term might be?
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You have to live and let live if someone wants green lights on there van its up the them our lunar a bright lights on grab handles the green light was properly 12 volt so not much electricity being used
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It could be worse. They could be multi-coloured and flashing.
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Throw a handful of nuts/seeds up on their roof (whilst they are not watching) that should fix the problem. It might even wake them up at 4o/c in the morning, or a bit later, with the early morning birds pecking away!
That reminds me of a prank a friend of mine played on a work college. He had been sea fishing and caught quite a few mackerel, late that evening he snuck out and threw the fish heads onto his mates roof. Very early the next morning his mate was woken by
all the seagulls pecking his roof.
Not that I approve of course.
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Part of my problem with the green light was the awful waste of energy having it shines ng 24/7. Don't people read the plea about keepI g electricity consumption down for the planet and our site fees? Then there is light on solution too.
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Part of my problem with the green light was the awful waste of energy having it shines ng 24/7. Don't people read the plea about keepI g electricity consumption down for the planet and our site fees? Then there is light on solution too.
You do know that saving the planet is just a scam. The scamers can be seen flying around the planet they are supposed to be saving going to more and more "conferences" staying in 5* hotels and selling each other carbon credits which they have just made up. So let the caravaner with the geen light have his/her fun!
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If not the planet don't you care about site fees increasing and they weren't enjoying their green light as they were out most of the time and as far as could be seen they couldn't see it anyway as it was under the van didn't even shine in the awning. It
was very inconsiderate to a large number of people on site.0 -
Cant believe people are checking when people are out if they have left the lights on as stated before they would of been 12. Volt being outside the caravan using next to nothing
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Virtually anonymous postings are a great opportunity to adopt alter egos. Slaps on the face, airguns, confrontation, aggressive behaviour, tiny but tough. In my, real life, experience, diplomacy or making excuses to tolerate problems eclipses online bravado.
Nobody is going to follow up a green light under a caravan, which if LED won't consume more power than boiling a kettle once a week. Even if irritating to others.0 -
There are a lot of threads on Club Together where posters report inappropriate behaviour by other users of the site. There are many suggestions that the transgressor should be "spoken to", and the purpose of this thread is to collect together suggestions
for methods that have been used successfully in the past for our members to do this in a friendly and non-threatening manner.This is direct contact by the member rather than simply going to clype to the Wardens, who in many cases have something else to be doing.
On Monday of this week I was at Exmoor House site at Dulverton when i took the bull by the horns and spoke to someone about their speed. I decided to after reading a comment in a recent post saying wardens found it hard to tackle a member about their
speed on the say so of another member (hearsay).On this particular occasion a member drove by my caravan at speed and I mean at speed also to close to my A frame for my liking. My pitch was on the head of a bend at the top of the site at the end of a straight stretch, vision around the bend at this
point was limited to two adjacent pitches ahead on the left and no view to the right. I went out and found him just about to enter his caravan. I said to him that he had just driven around the site far too fast and was he not aware of the signs on the road
and posts that he had passed on the way. Answer, “I wasn’t aware that i was going to fast and didn’t think it a problem”. I pointed out the 5MPH rule being that of walking pace and did he think he could have walked as fast as his speed and suggested to him
that I would have had to have sprinted to catch up with him his speed was so fast.Did he take on board what I had to say to him. I would like to think so but at no time did he offer any type of remorse or apology because in his words he didn’t think his driving was a problem.
I have sat in my caravan many times witnessing people going to fast but have always let it go. However on this occasion the speed wasn’t just fast it was diabolical.
The whole time I was not aggressive in tone or manner so he couldn’t take offence, Maybe that is the secret, be gentle but get your point across.
The site has well marked out speed signs both on the road surface and on boards with a pictogram of children playing so obviously members of this calibre are beyond reproach and the only solution is for harsh treatment.
Looking at the last paragraph of the OP I’m afraid the only person that can do anything about these rule breakers
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I too have had to remind members on two separate occasions about their speed when my granddaughters aged 2 and 7 were with us. On one occasion one member got nasty and told me to mind my own effin business even though he drove through the lines on grass
pitches right past where we were sitting and granddaughters playing. I did mention it to the wardens and to be fair they did go and have a word and I didn't notice it happen again. The silly thing was they also had young children in the car including a baby. It's
a pity not all members or non-members abide by the signs clearly there for all users safety.0 -
You have to go through a thinking process before you get to the point where you approach someone. Firstly I don't think it is my responsibilty to police the site rules unless I am persoanally affected. If the action of someone is impacting on the enjoyment
of my holiday I then have to decide whether its something it is reasonable for me to deal with or whether it should be passed to the warden. If its something that is bothering me but not really against the rules you then perhaps have no option but to approach
the person direct. If that is the last resort then diplomacy rather than a full frontal assult is likely to be the best policy and you have to explain why a certain behaviour is causing you concern and a request to stop the behaviour is likely to get a better
result. Put the ball in their court and most reasonable people will undertsand. If the person concerned does accept your request don't forget to at least say good morning to them the next day and if the opportunity arises thank them for their action.David
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