Positive suggestions for Booking Day.
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Can someone explain the "12month rolling program?
I asked the same a bit back. How would it be any different to having multiple frenzy days. However, nobody seem to want to answer it.???
Sorry been out doing last minute things before going away. However I think Moulsey and Cyber have already explained it, so I don't have to try too
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sure how the other club does it but I would expect as each month rolls over it releases that month in the following years calendar.As has been said there doesn't seem to be a one method that would suit all, a rolling year might suit some who work and have differant times of the year when their leave starts. Frenzy day isn't great for those who's leave year doesn't start until say1st
April but a rolling year would enable them to have 12mths choice just like everyone else.0 -
I think even with a rolling booking system unless there was some kind of brake on bookings nothing would change. The honeypot sites would still be booked months in advance.
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Indeed the only thing that might reduce the booked weekends would be a minimum 5 day booking. No I do not advocate that
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Let me pay tribute to a brave attempt by the OP to solicit genuine POSITIVE suggestions.
Write your comments here...On a positive note , I sincerely hope everyone that took the time to try & book yesterday , got at least one booking , they were desperate for .
I think we all agree that , in some way shape or form the booking system can be improved , until then we are all left with the current system .
Having a quick look today , there looks to be plenty of availability all round & keep checking sites you are still interested in , people do cancel & pitches do become available later
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At the risk of repeating what I've suggested for at least the past 2 years, a possible alternative would be to leave the system exactly as it is now, but remove what are, by common consent, "honeypot sites" from the online system until, say January. Treat them the same way as, I gather, seasonal bookings are treated - postal applications only, 1 application per envelope. Time consuming? Cumbersome? Certainly, but if it would stop folk moaning about how unfair the present system is, it might be worth a try. If folk weren't certain of getting, say Rowntree, they might just book Beechwood instead.
(Not holding my breath on this one, though!)
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Nothing wrong with paying up front for honeypot sites, with a maximum charge of two nights, no refunds. Club gets its money up front and if there are no "no shows", it won't lose a great deal. No refunds no hassle for the Club
peedee
Perhaps the same should apply to serviced pitches since they are also in greater demand.
peedee
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Nothing wrong with paying up front for honeypot sites, with a maximum charge of two nights, no refunds. Club gets its money up front and if there are no "no shows", it won't lose a great deal. No refunds no hassle for the Club
peedee
Perhaps the same should apply to serviced pitches since they are also in greater demand.
peedee
Not sure if they are in greater demand than non serviced other than to ensure hard standing. I wonder what the demand for serviced pitches would be if all pitches were hard standing?
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Tried to book Chatsworth for the Country Fair and Southport for the Air Show. Both sites fully booked before 09.45, the annoying thing is that there is no proper penalty for those who fail to turn up on the dates booked. A non-refundable deposit certainly
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Tried to book Chatsworth for the Country Fair and Southport for the Air Show. Both sites fully booked before 09.45, the annoying thing is that there is no proper penalty for those who fail to turn up on the dates booked. A non-refundable deposit certainly
gets my vote.This is absolute proof that one person's positive suggestion is another's negative.
We are each entitled to our opinion but, for me, the simplicity of booking without the faff of deposits is superb and the reason I generally look at CC sites first. C&CC's booking system is a real pain, in my view.
In case you're wondering, the very rare times I've cancelled have been due to illness and beyond my control.
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Tried to book Chatsworth for the Country Fair and Southport for the Air Show. Both sites fully booked before 09.45, the annoying thing is that there is no proper penalty for those who fail to turn up on the dates booked. A non-refundable deposit certainly
gets my vote.Dennis - those sites on those dates would fill up quickly whatever the system ( unless the club adopted the postal system I suggested above, which is extremely unlikely!) But what makes you think that folk who have been lucky enough to get the sites for
those dates won't honour their bookings?
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How about the system that timeshare honeypot resorts use, they have a time limit before you can go back to the same resort. There are some that have a 4 year time limit, now that wouldn't work with the CC but how about say, only 6 bookings a year for any
of the honey pot sites.For the sites that folk use for special events like Stonehaven, Southport, Bristol it could be if you had a booking in 2015 for the event, then you can't book for 2016 until a week after frenzy day, this would give others a chance to book.
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Tried to book Chatsworth for the Country Fair and Southport for the Air Show. Both sites fully booked before 09.45, the annoying thing is that there is no proper penalty for those who fail to turn up on the dates booked. A non-refundable deposit certainly
gets my vote.We had to cancel a booking on the day we set off, due to a broken leaf spring, which happened as we drove off the driveway at home. No chance of going anywhere in that situation.
An extreme example perhaps, nevertheless, it happened to us and IMHO a good reason for "failing to turn up" and not one for which I would expect a "proper penalty" (what exactly would that be?). I rang the site as soon as we got back into the house to explain
the situation, so we didn't fail to turn up without contacting the site.There are other, genuine, reasons why people can't honour their booking; to assume people just don't turn up is rather a big assumption.
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Tried to book Chatsworth for the Country Fair and Southport for the Air Show. Both sites fully booked before 09.45, the annoying thing is that there is no proper penalty for those who fail to turn up on the dates booked. A non-refundable deposit certainly gets my vote.
We had to cancel a booking on the day we set off, due to a broken leaf spring, which happened as we drove off the driveway at home. No chance of going anywhere in that situation.
An extreme example perhaps, nevertheless, it happened to us and IMHO a good reason for "failing to turn up" and not one for which I would expect a "proper penalty" (what exactly would that be?). I rang the site as soon as we got back into the house to explain the situation, so we didn't fail to turn up without contacting the site.
There are other, genuine, reasons why people can't honour their booking; to assume people just don't turn up is rather a big assumption.
Of course there are, there are a million and one reasons why you or I might not get off on our holiday, but in many parts of the leisure travel industry this has to be covered by cancellation insurance. In the CC that "cost" is borne by the other members (in potentially lost revenue to the club or the lost opportunity for someone else to book the pitch)
I am not saying that it is good or bad that we are all underwriting each others cancellation rights, but that is what is going on.....
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Tried to book Chatsworth for the Country Fair and Southport for the Air Show. Both sites fully booked before 09.45, the annoying thing is that there is no proper penalty for those who fail to turn up on the dates booked. A non-refundable deposit certainly gets my vote.
...And even if the 12 month rolling booking system was in operation the sites and dates you wanted would also be full only from the previose years shows
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Tried to book Chatsworth for the Country Fair and Southport for the Air Show. Both sites fully booked before 09.45, the annoying thing is that there is no proper penalty for those who fail to turn up on the dates booked. A non-refundable deposit certainly
gets my vote.We had to cancel a booking on the day we set off, due to a broken leaf spring, which happened as we drove off the driveway at home. No chance of going anywhere in that situation.
An extreme example perhaps, nevertheless, it happened to us and IMHO a good reason for "failing to turn up" and not one for which I would expect a "proper penalty" (what exactly would that be?). I rang the site as soon as we got back into the house to explain
the situation, so we didn't fail to turn up without contacting the site.There are other, genuine, reasons why people can't honour their booking; to assume people just don't turn up is rather a big assumption.
Of course there are, there are a million and one reasons why you or I might not get off on our holiday, but in many parts of the leisure travel industry this has to be covered by cancellation insurance. In the CC that "cost" is borne by the other members
(in potentially lost revenue to the club or the lost opportunity for someone else to book the pitch)I am not saying that it is good or bad that we are all underwriting each others cancellation rights, but that is what is going on.....
That's an interesting observation and comes close to defining what insurance is all about i.e. Spreading the risk amongst as many people as possible.
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I too am happy as is. The next best, should this be changed, is a rolling booking system. Im certainly wouldn't want to start paying deposit
I'm one of the lucky ones and know my holidays as I teach. I'm able to book for the whole year, subject to availability and for those peeps who say block booking for the year and then cancelling, uh no, in 9 years of being a
member I've cancelled once due to illness.0 -
It would seem one of the largest concerns is the feeling that people block book and then cancel as they wish without a penalty, some say a myth however after a conversation I once had I believe there may be a risk of this happening if only by a very small
percentage. People also are against a deposit system, not sure why as haven't seen a clear and reasonable answer as to why not yet from one of the objectors but I can think of one or two reasons that someone possibly might have for being against. Therefore
how about on opening day you can only book one visit to each site therefore giving greater opportunity to everyone to get a space and doing away with the opportunity and fears of mass booking/cancellations. After opening day you can book up any additional
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It would seem one of the largest concerns is the feeling that people block book and then cancel as they wish without a penalty,
Not sure just how big a concern that is nor for how many.
I do not want a deposit system. C&CC charge a £25 deposit, With other non CC sites if CC did the same I would have to shell out £425 pounds. Would it stop me booking early - NO. Would it stop the bookings for the very few sites that do get booked
up on the first day - NO. Therefore real advantage - not a lot0 -
It would seem one of the largest concerns is the feeling that people block book and then cancel as they wish without a penalty, some say a myth however after a conversation I once had I believe there may be a risk of this happening if only by a very small
percentage. People also are against a deposit system, not sure why as haven't seen a clear and reasonable answer as to why not yet from one of the objectors but I can think of one or two reasons that someone possibly might have for being against. Therefore
how about on opening day you can only book one visit to each site therefore giving greater opportunity to everyone to get a space and doing away with the opportunity and fears of mass booking/cancellations. After opening day you can book up any additional
times available.I explained my reasons for preferring the existing non-deposit system so please don't imply anything other than what I said.
As for your suggestion of only being able to book one visit to each site on frenzy day, that's fine by me as I never attempt booking anything before March. Others may have different thoughts about it.
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Wouldn't trouble me TW. I have actually booked one site for two visits this year which is unusual. I have booked Southport for 15 nights over Christmas which is not unusual but I have also tagged it onto the end of an earlier tour for 5 nights to see it
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Tinwheeler I seemed to have caused offence, never implied that you or anyone else have said anything just said there had been nothing written that would convince me that deposits aren't a possibility worth considering, however if this had been taken wrongly
I apologise to you and any others who feel the same.0
Afterall, you'll never please everybody!
