Against the working man

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  • IanH
    IanH Forum Participant Posts: 4,708
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    edited November 2016 #62

    Ian h , you don't know me so please keep your opinions to yourself , I already have Friday of work that's why we re travelling Thursday evening 

    Haggis - I think you'll find that I'm entitled to express my opinion.

    Further suggestion: Take Thursday off work if it's so important to you to be in that area.

    Sorted......again!

  • IanH
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    edited November 2016 #63

    Tinwheeler , rang them direct , very polite , just asked them if it would be ok arriving late .... the answer was a catorgoric no , 

    Solution: see above.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited November 2016 #64

    Ian h , you don't know me so please keep your opinions to yourself , I already have Friday of work that's why we re travelling Thursday evening 

    Haggis - I think you'll find that I'm entitled to express my opinion.

    Further suggestion: Take Thursday off work if it's so important to you to be in that area.

    Sorted......again!

    I must agree with my learned friend Ian on this. In all my working life I accepted that I had to get to a club site by 8pm. I never felt this was too much of a burden or discriminated against me at all. If I wanted a particular weekend and it was too far,
    I would take the afternoon off taking time that I was due.

  • huskydog
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    edited November 2016 #65

    I think this is one of these threads that won't come to a satisfactory end Surprised

  • mickysf
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    edited November 2016 #66

    I used to use a Club site for the very occasional weekends (OH thought them more trouble than they were worth) and I have not forgotten  being forced after a traffic delay to use the LNA parking on a bright summer evening by wardens who were still in the office but refused to book us in AND had to pay full price for the privilege unlike the gentleman warden at another site who just suggested a donation in the charity box .

    But why were they still in the office? Were they still in working hours? When would you expect them to say no more, how often would we expect them to just keep going? Surely there is a limit we would expect of them, isn't there? Maybe on some sites it's a regular occurance and on others not!

  • haggis123
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    edited November 2016 #67

    Ianh shall I take the rest of next week off too ? 

    Sorted ? 

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited November 2016 #68

    LNA, Late Night Arrival, Haggis Arrives Late at Night ergo He should be able to acces LNA's. If there's space He should be allowed to use it. Nuff saidHappy

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited November 2016 #69

    Haggis, you say you want to be in a specific area but have failed to say several times where it is. 

    Youve been looking forward to it for a long time so you must have a particular destination in mind.

    Have you bitten off more than you can chew by trying to arrive on a certain day? Would one day later matter? You could take it easy getting there and, by arriving a day later, it might help you arrive in a relaxed and calm state of mind.

     

  • young thomas
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    edited November 2016 #70

    Dave fl2 

    youre obviously retired mate 

    ..How did we manage? when we were working i wonder , it is not a new phenominum

    certainly isUndecided

  • haggis123
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    edited November 2016 #71

    Rocky2buckets , well said  

  • IanH
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    edited November 2016 #72

    Ianh shall I take the rest of next week off too ? 

    Sorted ? 

    Yeah, if that suits what you have chosen to do.........certainly better than everyone else having to fit around you.

    Sorted! Laughing

  • brue
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    edited November 2016 #73

    I find my sniff-em-out-meter is bleeping rather loudly......Laughing

  • mickysf
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    edited November 2016 #74

    LNA, Late Night Arrival, Haggis Arrives Late at Night ergo He should be able to acces LNA's. If there's space He should be allowed to use it. Nuff saidHappy

    I'd agree to a point but some sites don't have that luxury of LNAs and afterall they are there for unforeseen circumstances not a bookable bolt on! If we could prebook them then what happens when those unforeseen events happen to the unfortunate amongst us, they have lost their purpose!

  • moulesy
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    edited November 2016 #75

    Haggis - never let it be said that I give up too easily on helping out a fellow member. Now where is it you're wanting to visit? Undecided

  • young thomas
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    edited November 2016 #76

    LNA, Late Night Arrival, Haggis Arrives Late at Night ergo He should be able to acces LNA's. If there's space He should be allowed to use it. Nuff saidHappy

    Rocky, absolutely right. this seemd the logical answer to me, too...stay on the LNA and just book in the next morning.

    if theres a CC 'hoop' to jump through (ie: there must be some disaster to account for one's lateness) then surely the OP can just make the call to say the disaster has occured, and he will unfortunately be 'late'Wink

    cant agree with the usual 'go somewhere else' or 'take more time off' responses.....this is just 'roolz' for 'roolz' sakeSad

  • haggis123
    haggis123 Forum Participant Posts: 39
    edited November 2016 #77

    it seems to me that most of you are opposed to people driving to try to get to site late evening to enjoy a extended weekend , & get away from work and make the most of Our break .. most people will have there caravans wrapped up for winter . Not us we enjoy
    it and look forward to it . Only to be sideswiped by inflexible rules and beurocracy... not getting a great feel about this club maybe it's time to join the friendly club . A couple of folk have posted sensible posts but most not cheers .. 

  • IanH
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    edited November 2016 #78

    LNA, Late Night Arrival, Haggis Arrives Late at Night ergo He should be able to acces LNA's. If there's space He should be allowed to use it. Nuff saidHappy

    I'd agree to a point but some sites don't have that luxury of LNAs and afterall they are there for unforeseen circumstances not a bookable bolt on! If we could prebook them then what happens when those unforeseen events happen
    to the unfortunate amongst us, they have lost their purpose!

    That is a very good point, Micky.

  • Bugs
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    edited November 2016 #79

    Haggis123

    It would certainly help this discussion if you would tell those members who are trying to help you where exactly you are trying to get to?

    Also, can I just encourage you, if you haven't already done so, to read the Community Guidelines
    >>here<< paying particular attention to those sections dealing with respect and politeness when responding to other members?

    Cheers

    Bugs

  • haggis123
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    edited November 2016 #80

    Bolero , I'd rather not lie , you don't get this rubbish in France Spain Andorra etc , they're more than happy to help 

  • mickysf
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    edited November 2016 #81

    Imfamy, imfamy, they've all got it in for me! 

    Sorry couldn't resist it! But surely, we all need to recognise the implications for all, the members, the site staff, those already on site. The costs and the fees. We can't always have things all our own way.

    I now know that the whole purpose of this thread is to do with having a grouse about fixed hours and the working man. The working man on site that is!Undecided

  • IanH
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    edited November 2016 #82

    Another good one! Micky is on fire!! Laughing

  • KeefySher
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    edited November 2016 #83

    In our caravanning experience thus far we have had only 2 occasions where particular circumstances meant we may have arrived outside 'normal hours'. The first was a commercial site where the instructions given on booking when we explained our situation was
    to 'call this number when you are 30 minutes away and the security staff will meet you and ensure you are safely pitched'. The second was a CC site where the wardens called us to enquire of our progress, and as we would be arriving after they had clocked off
    advised there would be instructions and key fob left for us on arrival.

    Both worked for us.

    Just goes to show that there are roolz, and there is the ways and means act that overcomes roolz.

    Unles there is a security threat, there is no reason why late arrival properly communicated cannot be accomodated. Part of the fun of a holiday is the difference to the norm Tongue Out

  • young thomas
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    edited November 2016 #84

    Bolero , I'd rather not lie , you don't get this rubbish in France Spain Andorra etc , they're more than happy to help 

    i knew that but not allowed to make comparisons within the UK section....Wink

  • madhouse4
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    edited November 2016 #85

    If everything was easy when working, would there be anything to look forward to on retirement? The working man, also has to remember the other working man needs a break too, also spare a thought for the people already pitched, if your arriving late, we was
    in the lake district last year with two young children in bed ready for a reasonably early start home the next morning, when the non cc site let a caravan in at 10 pm that proceed to start to set up very noisely, when asked if they could try to be quiter,
    I was told it was our problem that they'd woken our children!

  • moulesy
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    edited November 2016 #86

    Bolero , I'd rather not lie , you don't get this rubbish in France Spain Andorra etc , they're more than happy to help 

    That's a bit ambitious for a weekend outing from Lincoln, haggis! Wink

    Seriously, I think you have to accept that, for now, it is what it is and you're not going to be able to use the LNA ( we can argue till Goldie's cows come home about the rights and wrongs of that.)

    But what we can do is help you with suggestions for alternatives if only you'd let us know where you want to go. As you've been invited to do this several times but not taken us up on it, I'm afraid your complaints are going to be met with a degree of scepticism.

  • young thomas
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    edited November 2016 #87

    If everything was easy when working, would there be anything to look forward to on retirement? The working man, also has to remember the other working man needs a break too, also spare a thought for the people already pitched, if your arriving late, we was
    in the lake district last year with two young children in bed ready for a reasonably early start home the next morning, when the non cc site let a caravan in at 10 pm that proceed to start to set up very noisely, when asked if they could try to be quiter,
    I was told it was our problem that they'd woken our children!

    in fairness, the OP wasnt asking for anyone (staff) to work late, nor had any intention of going onto site and disturbing anyone, merely to let the staff know they were likely to be late, to stay on the LATE night area, and sort the paperwork out the next
    morning.

    if a club cant accommodate a member in this simple request.....Sad

  • haggis123
    haggis123 Forum Participant Posts: 39
    edited November 2016 #88

    Just one last thought , how come then when I was at tintagel caravan club site and we had to leave at 545am to get to lincoln for midday , when I asked if it was ok to leave at that time they said theres no restriction on what time you depart ! 

    Whats the difference ? Hypocrisy big time. 

  • EasyT
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    edited November 2016 #89

    if I leave work at 5 , get the caravan hooked up and away by 6 , I have 2 hours to get anywhere before I am not allowed to check in on any caravan club site or stay in the overnight bay ( unless , quote .. I have broken down , heavy traffic or Similar )
      

    I think this is prejudice against the working man . 

    Therefore Is the caravan club primarily for retirees or people who do not have to work ? 

    I wonder how others, and myself, managed when we were working!! Most of us old farts were members and working before retirement. I guess we cut our cloth to suit and did not expect the workd to revolve around us as if we were the centre of the universe!

  • IanH
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    edited November 2016 #90

    Very true, Haggis......people shouldn't be allowed to be banging and clattering about at that time of a morning either......

  • huskydog
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    edited November 2016 #91

    This is getting boring now Undecided